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    Amazing ... it won't be long until you fire her up by the looks of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Amazing ... it won't be long until you fire her up by the looks of it

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    Could be a while yet!! Dollars and cents!!!
    Cheers Gerry

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    Probably the best CX-resto I've ever seen. I look forward to the end result!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    Just to repost all of the pictures that went with Shanes original posting in 'Here's a CX Restoration For You'
    I will try to post them chronologically as the restoration progressed.
    Cheers Gerry

    This is the car as purchased in 1995
    Many thanks. What a sensational bit of work! Like others, I'm in awe. Useful photos too, showing hydraulic lines in place.

    Hope all goes well with the final fill up and run.

    Cheers
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    After languishing for many months work has recommenced on the CX. Time for the rear glass installation. It all looks straight forward----how deceptive!!!!

    Problem one --------worn out caulking gun meant control of the bead was precarious. So therefore the first step to disaster commenced.

    Problem two---------incorrect cut on the nozzle of the caulking tube. Not enough sealant applied and also applied in the wrong shape.

    Result --------rip it all out before it sets bock solid and spend the next few hours cleaning and washing the sealant mess away with rags and mineral turps.

    Solution------- found a really good article on steps in glass installation on a BMW tech sheet PDF. Too big to upload ----sorry! If in doubt read the destructions!!!!

    Now armed with a new caulking gun and a correctly cut nozzle it is time to try again.
    Product used-----Sikaflex 255E and Sika Activator Pro.
    The rest of the story can be read from the pictures! The straps to tension the glass are ratchet straps using only the hook side attached to the seat belt anchors. And of course only Citroen rims are used for the weights.

    Note the use of masking tape to keep the trim frames compressed on the brand new plastic clips. The tape comes off after the sealant is cured. In about 16 hours from now. On picture shows the early attempt to secure the frames with tape------no good at all. The installed glass shows the method I found that works. It is much simpler!


    Cheers Gerry
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    the wagon glasses are even worse for moving while trying to refit too I think next time I'll get someone experianced with fitting modern windscreens to do mine. In theory they should know how to do it without the bloody window moving around smearing sealer/glue everywhere.

    You have certainly done a hell of a lot better than I managed

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    the wagon glasses are even worse for moving while trying to refit too I think next time I'll get someone experianced with fitting modern windscreens to do mine. In theory they should know how to do it without the bloody window moving around smearing sealer/glue everywhere.

    You have certainly done a hell of a lot better than I managed

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    That's only the side glasses. I imagine the rear screen will be a little more tricky due to the size of the thing. I will have to apply the bead of sealant to the frame instead of the glass. It will be far too difficult to place the glass if there is a strip of soft and messy sealant hanging off it. The side glasses can easily carry the sealant as they are placed into position. They are a nice size to handle. I will use two 5mm square strips of balsa to position the rear glass. Its own weight will be all that is necessary to hold it against the frame. No need for ratchet straps and weights.
    BTW the curvature of the side glass does not exactly match the curvature of the frame in a fore aft line. Therefore the glass sits away a little more at the leading edge than I would like. I intend to add a little more sealant at this point from the inside between the finishing strip and the glass. It should be OK if I mask the glass off first and clean the excess off to the masking line. I can then clean off any rough areas with a sharp Stanley Blade.
    Wish Me luck.
    Cheers Gerry

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    Now the rear glass-----I must admit it was a lot easier than the side glasses..
    Some points to note.
    1. Do a dummy fit first. I found that I needed to space the lower glass edge up from the channel edges with two blocks of balsa. I assumed that two pieces of 5mm square would be enough having measured first. Incorrect frames have discrepancies so the left block was changed to 6.5mm square. This ensured that there was equal glass on both sides for the sealant bead as also for the top edge.
    2. Rig a weight and strap system as done for the side glasses. This time I hung the strap from the sun visor mount and used the same trusty Light15 rim. Ablock of wood under the strap was necessary to ensure a good fit on the frame on the top right corner.
    3. Use a marking pen onto the glass to define the inner edges of the frame while the glass is in position during the dummy fit. Then when back on the work stands place a line of masking tape to the inside of the marker line to delineate a straight and true piping line for the sealant.
    4. Fit handling suction cups as seen in the photo.
    5. Apply an even triangular bead of sealant to the outer edge, and then place the glass carefully in position ensuring centralisation and that the lower edge contacts the two balsa blocks. Press down evenly into place and fit the block of wood under the strap to pretension the corner.
    6. I also decided to add a bead of sealant along the top edge of the glass. As the glass curves down to the centre line of the car the gap between the frame and the glass becomes a water collection point, inviting the rust that some times occurs at this point. It was fairly easy to run a strip of masking tape along the frame at a line level with the glass top surface and along the top edge of the glass. A run with the caulking gun and a wipe with a finger dipped in turps, carefully remove the tape whilst still fresh and presto a neat and easy job is complete. Now water running off the roof will just flow down the glass to the lower drain channel around the boot opening and the away to the road.
    Cheers Gerry
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    Just a quick reply to let you know how appreciative I am of your posts Gerry, I'm just in awe of your skills, your attention to detail and this whole project - just superb.

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    Fantastic thread!

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    I'm with Fingers and Chris. Gerry, the safari is now on the road and with my retirement I'm now just starting the 2CV project. The big lesson you are teaching me (and just in time) is patience. I've always tended to compromise job quality by trying to get it finished by lunchtime. This time, however, I will have this thread and the quality of your work very much in the front of my mind and my mantra will be "Never mind the time, just do it right." Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John P View Post
    I'm with Fingers and Chris. Gerry, the safari is now on the road and with my retirement I'm now just starting the 2CV project. The big lesson you are teaching me (and just in time) is patience. I've always tended to compromise job quality by trying to get it finished by lunchtime. This time, however, I will have this thread and the quality of your work very much in the front of my mind and my mantra will be "Never mind the time, just do it right." Thanks.
    John, I think that is another way of saying 'I am Slow".
    The question of when it will be finished is governed by "If I Finish It Then What Will I Have To Do To keep Occupied?" Ohwell I quess there is always the GS and the 11BL
    Cheers Gerry

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    I am eleated. -----All the glass work has just passed the LEAK TEST with flying colours.
    Cheers Gerry

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    Slow was not what I had in mind.
    I know how project cars can go.
    I have rushed for a deadline and driven partly finished cars.
    I have also a car that has not been worked on for at least six or eight years... only owned it about 35 years.....
    Your progress is just fine.

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    Exhaust System prepared and fitted.
    Cheers Gerry
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    I've never seen "underneath" a car look so clean!! I'll be interested to see if the exhaust wrapping keeps inside the car any cooler

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    The rear panels are now all in place. Including the rear louvre.
    Cheers Gerry
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    You must be getting excited. How far off complete is it now ?

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    Door trims, screen, rim painting, fluids and battery to add, then of course sorting out any electrical issues and the niggly little problems that always occur just when you think that your ready to start it up.
    Cheers Gerry

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    Rear Door trims went on today!
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    That looks fantastic. dying some colour back into the handles really improves the look of them!

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    I love it all white....i want another white cx now....damn you
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    I am so envious of you, Gerry. That is some damn nice work. I've seen cars at judged Concours events that weren't that well restored.

    Hmmmmmm.......someone here had a spare CX S2 Prestige bodyshell. Now I just need some spare cash.
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    Gerry, this is just so impressive. Unbelievably good no great work.

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    Hi Gerry,
    pleased to see that you're keeping up the standard that we've come to expect and enjoy. Fantastic work!
    Can you elaborate on how you managed to find/resurrect door trims like that.
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