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    Quote Originally Posted by UFO View Post
    Surely that would be the late Greg from Seven Hills. As our club librarian would tell you, there is a difference between Craig and Greg - except to Americans.
    I stand corrected "Greg it is" my mistake Greg was a great guy he was a master in trimming I just which he could have done my last DS interior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumnoreason View Post
    Phillipe's car is a cracker, I had a look at it in August and I think it must be one of the nicest D's in Oz, beautiful work : )
    Thanks for the compliment with your current enthusiast and determination won't be Long before yours is just as good if not better keep up the good work

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    Really impressed with the resto job. also got a 69 DS with similar dash although mine don't look quite so good yet!

    My wiring loom all shot away - seems insulation on 69 models not good. I need to replace mine - just wondered where in Germany you got replacement and how much

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by banger1 View Post
    new to Aussi Frogs

    Really impressed with the resto job. also got a 69 DS with similar dash although mine don't look quite so good yet!

    My wiring loom all shot away - seems insulation on 69 models not good. I need to replace mine - just wondered where in Germany you got replacement and how much

    cheers

    Banger1
    Hi from Australia
    Good to see there are more 69 DS around, my dash was reconditioned by a company in Victoria called "the dash doctor" this guy has repaired a few of the 69 dashes and his work is excellent.
    The harness come from Christian Fahrig <[email protected]> from Germany his web site Scheinwerfer I believe I paid 360 Euro including shipping to Australia that was about 2 years ago his work is excellent he provides the harness with a circuit diagram. Send him an email in english or French is OK make sure you tell him about your car model, number of fuses and indicate if left or right hand drive. the 69 D harnesses were particularly bad the plastic insulation used during that period being of very poor quality possibly due to cost cutting.
    I hope this help please send some pictures of your 69 restoration
    Cheers
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    Hi
    I’m looking for the small white plastic insert that clips in the front radiator ducting and basically holds the cable used to control the swiveling lights. refer to attached picture

    Can anyone help? Happy to pay for it
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    Hello

    I purchased one from Andre Citroen.
    Citroen Andre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UFO View Post
    Surely that would be the late Greg from Seven Hills. As our club librarian would tell you, there is a difference between Craig and Greg - except to Americans.


    Hey now, Greg, er, Craig, awwww..... never mind. Hey you! Bloke!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Parisian View Post
    Hi from Australia
    the 69 D harnesses were particularly bad the plastic insulation used during that period being of very poor quality possibly due to cost cutting.
    I hope this help please send some pictures of your 69 restoration
    Cheers
    I found that the insulation wasn't plastic, but rather a rubber-like coating that just simply dried out. I still suspect that this wire came from some East Bloc country, and yah- it was bad quality stuff. I think the thinking went that the cars were just throw-away appliances at the end of their working life. Nobody ever suspected that tens of thousands of them would make it to today.
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    Cheers Le Parisian

    that helps a lot. I can get a loom over here in UK but around £500 which seems a lot - will give Christian a try.
    Someone else told be the insulation around 69 was not good - mine has rotted away badly. Have some rust to sort out , clutch to change, needs new tyres, carpets etc but pretty solid and engine is superb. Also love the old dash on the 69's

    will upload some pics

    cheers again

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    I purchased one from Andre Citroen.
    Citroen Andre.

    Matthew
    Hi matthew
    Do you have the part number and description for the item in question the link youve given me doesnt point to any spare parts listing
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by banger1 View Post
    Cheers Le Parisian

    that helps a lot. I can get a loom over here in UK but around £500 which seems a lot - will give Christian a try.
    Someone else told be the insulation around 69 was not good - mine has rotted away badly. Have some rust to sort out , clutch to change, needs new tyres, carpets etc but pretty solid and engine is superb. Also love the old dash on the 69's

    will upload some pics

    cheers again
    Good on you cant wait to see the pictures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrodelectric View Post
    I found that the insulation wasn't plastic, but rather a rubber-like coating that just simply dried out. I still suspect that this wire came from some East Bloc country, and yah- it was bad quality stuff. I think the thinking went that the cars were just throw-away appliances at the end of their working life. Nobody ever suspected that tens of thousands of them would make it to today.
    Spot on Hotrodelectric you’re absolutely correct definitely feels like a rubber type material, just wondering how many years did Citroen use this crappy wiring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Parisian View Post
    Spot on Hotrodelectric you’re absolutely correct definitely feels like a rubber type material, just wondering how many years did Citroen use this crappy wiring.
    I've seen from as early as the late 1968 models and it persisted to the early 1970 models. The earlier cars used a more normal plastic insulation in different colors (blue, yellow, gray, green), and the later '70 continued using all-black, but again with a more normal plastic insulation.

    If you look at a rotted '69 harness, you find the black is what suffers. The yellow and green might be stiff and maybe even cracking because the plasticisers in the insulation has completely dried out, but the damage is nowhere near what has happened to the black.

    Even more telling, the rear harnesses almost never have this problem, regardless of the YOM.
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    Default 1969 DS21 BVH restoration

    impressive VERY !

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    You saved the best for last, simply superb congratulations

    Let me know when you feel this thread can be moved to 'Completed Restorations'

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBlood View Post
    You saved the best for last, simply superb congratulations

    Let me know when you feel this thread can be moved to 'Completed Restorations'

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    Hi Chris
    Finally and did this is the end of my DS restoration it has been fun and at the same time tiring I wont be doing any more restoration mainly due to health issues thank you for the compliment please move the thread to 'Completed Restorations' when youre ready.
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    Great job, you must be pleased!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
    Great job, you must be pleased!!!!
    Very please Dano! may not be everyones choice of colors but I m quite happy with the results.
    The car is really nice to drive and hoppefully I will bring it to the 14th July at silverwater at the Citroen club show.
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    Alors la! Hein... Chapeau Philippe. Tres bien. Mais par contre, les cendriers, pas d'accord. Le siege de droite va a gauche et vis versa.

    Mais vraiment encore......felicitations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrisson_citroen View Post
    Alors la! Hein... Chapeau Philippe. Tres bien. Mais par contre, les cendriers, pas d'accord. Le siege de droite va a gauche et vis versa.

    Mais vraiment encore......felicitations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Parisian View Post
    Hi matthew
    Do you have the part number and description for the item in question the link youve given me doesnt point to any spare parts listing
    Cheers
    Philippe
    Hi Phillipe
    part number is DX 541 159

    They appear to be updating their website. Perhaps if you email them with the part number they can get back to you.

    Hope that helps and congratulations on the DS..

    Matthew

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnm View Post
    Hi Phillipe
    part number is DX 541 159

    They appear to be updating their website. Perhaps if you email them with the part number they can get back to you.

    Hope that helps and congratulations on the DS..

    Matthew
    Thank you for the above info and the compliment; Im in touch with Andre and currently organising the part to be sent to Australia
    Cheers
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    Wow.....this car is absolutely spectacular! I've got a way to go with mine!

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