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    Default How do you fill glazing?

    Finally finished de blinging the CX over the last few weeks, and attending to some of it's little problems like a scrape I put in the side. (enjoy some pics below )

    But how do I EASILY fill the cracks formed by the paint glazing? (see the last pic)....I've sanded a lot of the roof back...but not to metal, I wanted to just use a filler, prime, and lightly spray. Any ideas???

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    If you do not take it back to solid primer or bare metal the CRAZING will return before your eyes as the paint dries the paint as it is is stuffed the chemical cohesion is gone due to years of heat and ultra violet .
    you maybe lucky and it could be the clear top coat applied to blend in some previous repair but to be on the safe Side if your going to put any work into it back to metal and get a friend to blow some 2 pak on it
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    It has to go back to bare metal. You have no choice. the existing coating has completely failed.

    BTW: it's only 1/2dozen screws to remove the stainless trim and boot hinges. It'll look pretty bad if you just try to mask like that. It would take less time to remove that trim than to mask it

    You need to grind that rear quater panel back to bare metal and work the metal a little and fill it. You can't just bog over the existing damage.

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    I'll sand back to metal then...and Shane most of the shots are before and afters...the rear panel was fixed properly....so all done bar the roof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Dammery View Post
    I'll sand back to metal then...and Shane most of the shots are before and afters...the rear panel was fixed properly....so all done bar the roof.
    Just paint strip it. You'll be there for a month of Sundays sanding it. Paint stripper will have it all off in a hour. Then clean it up using 80 grit paper and an electric sander. It'll be ready to prime in a couple of hours.

    We used to use a product called isolator and was intended to seal off old repairs and damaged paint to stop it bleeding through, don't know if you can still get it.

    Best way is to strip it back to metal and start again
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    Now there's a good idea...thanks dave
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    Woops ... I thought they were all the befores To get a good job it's all in the preperation. Think 100hours prep == 1hour painting... It's a hell of a task..... but a lot of fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Dammery View Post
    Now there's a good idea...thanks dave
    Careful with stripper on a CX roof. You have all the crevices of that sunroof there. keep the stripper away from the sunroof and edges of the roof. The CX roof guttering is where layers get spot welded together. If you get stripper into the seems/sunroof it'll come back and bite you later when your trying to paint it (unless you can guarantee you have cleaned every last bit of it off).

    One of those stripping discs in a rotary polisher/sander would probaby be safer if you keep it moving and don't overheat any of the metal.

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    most of the dameage is centralised...so can keep away from the gutters and sunroof. She'll never be perfect, doesn't need to be, but she looks so much better after removing the horrible two piece spoiler and all the reflective tape.
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    You might as well just unbolt the two boot hinges as they are only held on by 2 nuts/studs either side. You then eliminate an edge.

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    What we used to do was put masking tape, sometimes a couple of layers thick over the edges and bits we didn't want the stripper to damage, like window rubbers.

    When doing bonnets and horizontal panels mask up the edges along the panel gaps so stripper doesn't get between the panels.

    Get a good stronge steel scraper and off you go.
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    The trick with steel scrapers is to keep the end sharp with a file. Hold the scraper so it's standing up on a flat file and draw it along the file to get a square edge at the end of the blade. I find it works best near the head of the file. Then remove any rough edges by drawing both sides of the scraper blade flat across the file. You are less likely to scratch the surface this way. It makes a significant difference and you need to sharpen it fairly often. Also, a roll of coarse steel wool and proper gloves will prove helpful.

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    Hey Stu.....Wasn't that fence of yours was it? Last time I recal I was in a CX there it jumped out at me!

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    Same one Andy...but I did a better job than you did LOL
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    A couple of things I have used in the last 12 months -one in extreme circumstances was a belt sander -wonderful when making a mate's C20 Chev tow truck look good after punching a Hyundai down the road 100 ft. after it blocked his path-Thats what you Getz when you don't check the rear view mirror!!!
    The other is the fibre wheels that are around now[Times are a changing Dave-They are grouse!!]
    I would think it unwise to use on fibreglass but whoever is watching do yourself a favour and grab one at the hardware joint next time you are there.When you need it you will be glad you bought it.
    Bunnings definitely have-Josco Brumby strip-it discs.About 12 buckeroos.

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