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    Pity ............ In 1963 I could only afford a VW at half the price.

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    What a refreshingly honest ad - only the facts about the car.

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    So, what gives it the extra 8mph?
    Aside from the front styling, what else would be different? Carby?

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    A little jealous of the synchromesh in all four gears!

    Thanks for sharing this. Pure gold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    So, what gives it the extra 8mph?
    Aside from the front styling, what else would be different? Carby?
    The story was that the re-style of the front end was more than cosmetic. Modifications to the under body and ducting of the air intake for cooling had significant effect on aerodynamics. Pretty good result.

    I have read somewhere that the DS was designed without the use of a wind tunnel, simply the result of intuition and experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelr View Post
    The story was that the re-style of the front end was more than cosmetic. Modifications to the under body and ducting of the air intake for cooling had significant effect on aerodynamics. Pretty good result.

    I have read somewhere that the DS was designed without the use of a wind tunnel, simply the result of intuition and experience.
    There was no such thing as a wind tunnel in 1955,however I could be wrong.
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    Random price listings Australian Monthly Motor Manual, August 1965:

    2000 Austin A110
    1525 Chrysler Valiant Regal
    1738 Citroen ID 19 (2390 Safari)
    1871 Fiat 2300
    1481 Ford Falcon Futura
    1330 Holden Premier
    1795 Humber Hawk (2828 Super Snipe Wagon)
    2499 Mercedes-Benz 190C (4cyl)
    1378 Nissan Cedric De Luxe
    1275 Peugeot 404 (1360 Wagon)
    2997 Rover Three Litre
    1735 Studebaker Lark (1935 Daytona Wagonaire)
    1599 Vauxhall Cresta
    919 VW Deluxe
    1590 Volvo 122 B18
    595 Zeta Sports

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amopallas View Post
    There was no such thing as a wind tunnel in 1955,however I could be wrong.
    Yes, you could be. I read that the wind tunnel dates back to 1871. Even the Wright brothers used one.
    However, I have read also that none was used in designing the DS which surprised me somewhat. I would have thought that Lefebvre, having worked for Voisin, would have introduced a more scientific approach to the aerodynamic optimisation of the DS. It is even more surprising how well it worked out.
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    I don't have the right books with me, so I can't check (and I can't face looking them up online), but I have an idea the carby was different.

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    The downside was the moving of the muffler from the very front to underneath the belly. It makes the muffler more prone to damage. Someone told me the reason they thought the earlier muffler had a longer "life" than the underbelly later one, was that the moisture runs down and out of the early one (being high up) while the moisture remains in the later style until the car is used again. Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by panhard View Post
    Pity ............ In 1963 I could only afford a VW at half the price.
    Yeah, I was trying to con the old man into helping me buy a Mini 850 about this time for the princely sum of 740 quid. A Cit was way out of reach for a 17 year old.

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