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    Icon5 Xantia brake spring...

    Hello Folks,

    Much has been said on removing the spring between the Xantia's brake pedal and the rubber mushroom and replacing said spring with a piece of conduit of similar length and diameter.

    What I haven't seen is how on earth you remove said spring. Reference to the Haynes Manual indicates that to remove the pedal you need to remove the dashboard (and I ain't doin' that).

    Is the spring mechanism clipped the the pedal arm?

    I don't want to go in there boots and all and wreck the mechanism...

    Thanks in advance for any replies...

    Cheers,

    Andrew Matusiewicz
    1999 Xantia SX 16 valve 5 speed

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    Try here:

    Terrible RHD Xantia brakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Try here:

    Terrible RHD Xantia brakes

    seeya,
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    Spot on. THe Xantia still has brilliant brakes! Hmm. Where did that 7 years go?
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    Thanks Shane.

    Just one thing though - can one remove the plastic assembly surrounding the spring (the black plastic device) from the brake pedal arm without first removing the pedal arm from the driver's footwell?

    Is it a case of just reefing the black plastic device off (I gather its either clipped in there, or a press fit).

    Sorry if I sound a bit dim on this...

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    Andrew

    Once you scrunch yourself down into the footwell far enough, you can simply lift the pedal up far enough for the silly spring assembly to be withdrawn by hand.

    You don't have to unbolt anything.

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    Brilliant!

    Thanks guys - I know what I'll be doing this weekend...

    Cheers,

    Andrew
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    I used a bit of curtain conduit cut to the length of the spring. It fitted like a glove.

    That conversion changes the Xantia brakes from worst to best, compared to the BX and CX.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by XantiaHead View Post
    Brilliant!

    Thanks guys - I know what I'll be doing this weekend...

    Cheers,

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    You can do it almost as quickly as savouring one pint of Guinness on St Pat's tomorrow. Savouring it, not bolting it down.......

    Once you've lifted the pedal high on its pivot it becomes obvious. The plastic cylinder with the spring inside comes apart easily (can't remember how, so it must be easy) and then you throw the spring away and put something solid in its place. You won't be disappointed.
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    Two points on Xantia brakes:
    1) Check / change the boot on the brake valve before it lets go and dumps LHM on the carpet.
    2) With that spring in place, the brakes are quite dodgy without the ABS working. I tried it by removing the ABS fuse on a driving course a few years ago and I found it very hard to control.

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    I knew I'd done something like this. Probably lost in the crash, but here it is fresh off my hard disc.

    Cheers, Pottsy
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    Icon14 Made the change...

    ...and oh boy, what a change for the better!

    Thanks folks!

    Cheers,

    Andrew Matusiewicz
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    Quote Originally Posted by XantiaHead View Post
    ...and oh boy, what a change for the better!

    Thanks folks!

    Cheers,

    Andrew Matusiewicz
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    That's great. Glad it worked for you.

    I was quite scared when I messed with mine, perhaps ten years ago, but the forum folk were wonderful. Thanks again Alan Smith, and Shane of course!

    I can't understand why they messed around with the stupid spring in the first place. It doesn't give progressive pedal movement that relates to braking effort, that's for sure.

    I reckon the brakes are one of the great things about Xantias.
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    Wow,

    I must have a look at replacing the 'spring' on my 16V wagon. The modulation of the brakes is so bad that I can't stop evenly when braking gently.

    I don't seem to have that problem on the Activa though???

    Cheers,

    Ken W

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