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    Default DS/ID plug leads

    It's Toyota T18 leads that fit without the extenders right

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    Yep! T18 it is.
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    Excellent .... $39.00bucks delivered to my doorstep .....

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/IGNITION-...5#ht_500wt_969

    Don't tell Ang

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    Sigh.....

    ...and here I am not allowing Toyota's in the driveway, let alone random parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronhic View Post
    Sigh.....

    ...and here I am not allowing Toyota's in the driveway, let alone random parts.
    THere vastly superior, even later CX's went to the "moulded lead" design doing away with plug extenders and there frail insulating tubes.

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    My Safari has them on it. Excellent leads thanks to Boyracer. I must get you a replacement set!
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    I've been using them on the D for years now with no problems. I think it was Paul Smith who made the discovery and spread the news. I mentioned it in a CX post on 31 January 2006 and bought and fitted a set soon after.

    OK, they're not red but blue - who really cares?
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    Oh, I've no issue with anything that is better quality...but the simple fact that they were originally intended for a *gasp* Toyota T18 is enough to have whats left of my hair fall out even faster than it should.....

    ...Of all the revolting, boring and mundane cars to have something in common with....

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    Thanks... I had no idea they were compatible...should this info be on a sticky?
    Just bought a set to keep aside for my next DS....a cabrio
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    The factory design will work just fine with one minor change. You make the insulator tubes out of a thicker wall section Garolite. Have had a set so made in my 72 for 9 years and a bit over 98,000 miles. No noticeable deterioration. Just have a thing for those bright orange leads........

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    I have nothing against even the factory insulators, however just look at the way these modern leads are made and you'll immediately see they are a vastly superior design.

    Top Gun is an aussie company (I think ). They make a lead set for my CX ..... There is only 4leads there for $66 (from memory). To put it into perspective, Mel Carey found me a set of these back when I got the car .... He was pleased when he rang me saying he found a set. No doubt he was far less than pleased when I said "No thanks" to the $250 price The damn things aren't gold plate you know

    These moulded leads are still 90quid even on ebay ....

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IGNITION-L...#ht_2285wt_952

    I wonder what is so special about them. I need to get a set for the CX, but I think I'll just get a set through top gun at a tiny fraction of the price (even though there blue instead of red!).

    $39aud delivered to your door for moulded leads for the DS is a bloody bargain! My experience with top gun leads has always been positive too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    It's Toyota T18 leads that fit without the extenders right

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    Thanks Shane, I needed a set of leads and I can live with blue! A bit of mild surgery has them fitting well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I have nothing against even the factory insulators, however just look at the way these modern leads are made and you'll immediately see they are a vastly superior design.

    Top Gun is an aussie company (I think ). They make a lead set for my CX ..... There is only 4leads there for $66 (from memory). To put it into perspective, Mel Carey found me a set of these back when I got the car .... He was pleased when he rang me saying he found a set. No doubt he was far less than pleased when I said "No thanks" to the $250 price The damn things aren't gold plate you know

    These moulded leads are still 90quid even on ebay ....

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IGNITION-L...#ht_2285wt_952

    I wonder what is so special about them. I need to get a set for the CX, but I think I'll just get a set through top gun at a tiny fraction of the price (even though there blue instead of red!).

    $39aud delivered to your door for moulded leads for the DS is a bloody bargain! My experience with top gun leads has always been positive too!

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    luckily a certain member that is no longer allowed here can't post otherwise he would tell you that top gun are crap according to some great mechanic he knows or is related to that stated that everycar that came in miss firing was due to top gun leads as they were no damn good

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    Blue leads? I did not fit them to upset the purists! The car is certainly starting better from cold and I think pulling better from lower revs... the old Bougicords were on their last legs I think.
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    I'm running low on good insulator tubes and yes, when I open the bonnet of the 1960 ID, I like "the original look". I'll pass on the T18 plug leads but I'm curious what these Garolite tubes are and where to get hold of them? I'll probably find something if I google it. I always wondered if PVC would do the trick but would there be a correct size. I assume that the froggy site has gone down this path in the past and probably dismissed PVC for some reason. Michael

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    I would have thought PVC would melt in a DS head. When I weld PVC it doesn't take much heat to soften and shape it.
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    Try and find yourself a good set of R16TS plug extenders. They are not easy to find either these days though. Be gentle with them if you find a set.

    2nd best is probably a set of plug insulators from an early CX.

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    New insulator tubes are available from the usual folk overseas for very little money and weigh next to nothing.
    I have a few sets bought last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richo View Post
    New insulator tubes are available from the usual folk overseas for very little money and weigh next to nothing.
    I have a few sets bought last year.
    Thanks Richo (sanity prevails)
    I thought I'd lost the plot, I know I can drive over to DS Motors and they are in stock, there is no sudden shortage of supply and as you say for an item that should last 10 years not a huge investment in something that is proven to work.

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