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    After some years of inactivity I've got back to working on my '58 Slough ID19. I've completed the rust repairs around the back of the car and yesterday I threw some primer on the rear body closing panel. This car is fitted with an unusual additional steel valence which is attached to the lower edge of the body closing panel. It is obviously factory but there is a certain crudeness about the manufacturing. My earlier Slough dee doesn't have this panel and it doesn't show up in any of the body or parts manuals that I have.
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    Very unusual. What makes it seem a factory fitted panel?
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    Its a support panel for a giant body kit!!?



    That is unusual
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    Quote Originally Posted by lhs2.1 View Post
    After some years of inactivity I've got back to working on my '58 Slough ID19. I've completed the rust repairs around the back of the car and yesterday I threw some primer on the rear body closing panel. This car is fitted with an unusual additional steel valence which is attached to the lower edge of the body closing panel. It is obviously factory but there is a certain crudeness about the manufacturing. My earlier Slough dee doesn't have this panel and it doesn't show up in any of the body or parts manuals that I have.
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    Isn't that interesting, I've never seen anything like it on any Ds I've come across...

    Perhaps it's function is the same as the large rubber mud flaps fitted to later cars, I guess to keep the dust down and attempts to keep dust from swirling into the boot??? If original, maybe something fitted to cars destined for dusty climes?

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    That was only used on the South African model.

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    My 1959 Slough DS19 has that panel. It is quite flimsy and its bottom edge sits about an inch below the botom of the rear bumper. The car also has rubber mudflaps. I have no evidence that it is a South African model. It does have a German identification plate on the firewall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    My 1959 Slough DS19 has that panel. It is quite flimsy and its bottom edge sits about an inch below the botom of the rear bumper. The car also has rubber mudflaps. I have no evidence that it is a South African model. It does have a German identification plate on the firewall.

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    Roger,
    I was referring to the mudflaps as shown in this pic. Are you saying your car has these as well as the extra paneling?



    *Pic on loan from UFO's respray thread - hope you don't mind Craig.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    My 1959 Slough DS19 has that panel. It is quite flimsy and its bottom edge sits about an inch below the botom of the rear bumper. The car also has rubber mudflaps. I have no evidence that it is a South African model. It does have a German identification plate on the firewall.

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    Ah, that's interesting. Seems to confirm that it was a Slough factory fitting. It is made up of 5 pieces spot-welded together - a centre panel, two end pieces which appear to be pressed, and two strengthening flutes. Yes it is quite flimsy. I also have no evidence that my car is a South African model, it has a Slough chassis plate. Agree with the earlier comment that it appears to be an effort to reduce dust entry to the boot area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lhs2.1 View Post
    Ah, that's interesting. Seems to confirm that it was a Slough factory fitting. It is made up of 5 pieces spot-welded together - a centre panel, two end pieces which appear to be pressed, and two strengthening flutes. Yes it is quite flimsy. I also have no evidence that my car is a South African model, it has a Slough chassis plate. Agree with the earlier comment that it appears to be an effort to reduce dust entry to the boot area.
    Thanks for the comments.
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    It is a universal (un)truth that all odd items found on cars can be easily explained as being found only on the South African model. A very handy explanation!

    Don't forget that Slough cars were also exported to South Africa. It does look like an addition for the dusty/muddy colonies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    It is a universal (un)truth that all odd items found on cars can be easily explained as being found only on the South African model. A very handy explanation!
    That one's surely going to come back and bite you

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBlood View Post
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    I was referring to the mudflaps as shown in this pic. Are you saying your car has these as well as the extra paneling?
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    What is mudflap in that pic and what is not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    Chris,

    What is mudflap in that pic and what is not?

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    In this pic you may be able to see more clearly? Either side of the boot box.



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    Found a better pic of Craig's car...



    ...and probably where I should have looked first - part #9 in the diagram



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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    It is a universal (un)truth that all odd items found on cars can be easily explained as being found only on the South African model. A very handy explanation!

    Don't forget that Slough cars were also exported to South Africa. It does look like an addition for the dusty/muddy colonies.
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    That one's surely going to come back and bite you

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    Very nice job! To repair rusty part, do you just sand it down and weld sheet of metal? Or just remove the rust and fill it with epoxy and prime?

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    I have seen a few South African built ID's of the same year, and around the same year, none of them had that extra panel



    I don't have a picture of the rearside of this ID, but this is actually a South African built ID. a 1958 model. No extra steel valence at all

    Yes we had some super weird D assembly methods, like the fact that our DS's were built to slough specs but the seats were French specs

    I have even seen an ID built for government officials (not South African built) it's got the glass section between front and rear passangers, it also did not have this valence, maby it was a special request or only put on a small amount of export cars of a certain year for certain dusty countries? Definitely the first car I see with that valence

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