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    Hi everyone. Does anyone know where or how I can get the top retaining clip for the vertical shaft,that connects to the choke flaps on a Weber 28/36 DMA carburettor fittted to a DS 23 Pallas,late 74 model. I removed the top part of the carburettor today,so that I could replace the inlet pipe with the threaded replacement pipe sold to me by Richo,and bugger me, I accidentally lost the top clip down the DS "black hole",where nuts ,washers and other small items end up,never to be seen again. I wasted at least 2 hours looking for it,but I have no idea where this clip is hiding. Thanks everyone and cheers . Joe

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    Do you have a flexible magnetic pick up tool with which to probe this 'black hole'.


    I'd be stopped in my tracks regularly without my Kincrome tool.

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    HI Jo, no I don't have a magnetic rod as you suggest,but I have a magnetic screw driver,which occasionally I tape to a long stick to retrieve,what I can see of the dropped nuts or washers,but I cannot see where this pesky clip has ended up. Thanks fo your suggestion Cheers Joe
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    I have a couple (actually a few) of magnetic pick up tools. the best being made by Stahlwille, thinner and stronger than most.

    They are essential kit.

    The time looking isn't wasted, at least don't even breathe the phrase near the car, it will hear and the part will never be found.

    The clips might be found on other carburetors in wreckers yards, or a carburetor specialist.
    I'm sorry to hear you have lost that particular part. All the best finding it, or a suitable magnetic pick-up tool to assist in the search. In the interim, a magnet, wound around a piece of slightly stiff wire (like amodern coat hanger) wire will serve you well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amopallas View Post
    HI Jo, no I don't have a magnetic rod as you suggest,but I have a magnetic screw driver,which occasionally I tape to a long stick to retrieve,what I can see of the dropped nuts or washers,but I cannot see where this pesky clip has ended up. Thanks fo your suggestion Cheers Joe
    A magnetic screwdriver is not in the ballpark.

    The proper tool has a rare earth magnet in it and can lift a full sized shifter or multigrips.
    In fact so strong is it that sometimes its a bugger to get into location as it jumps sideways in attraction to the closest bit of steel.

    The flexible shaft allows it to probe the most inaccessible places.

    If you were to buy one of these tools, you'll soon wonder how you ever got by without it.
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    Oh yes the magnetic tool is an absolute must!!

    I got one of those grab hook flexible tools, specially to pick up those small non magnetic things that fall into the bowels of the car, but unfortunately if you can't see the non magnetic object, the tool is of no help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amopallas View Post
    Hi everyone. Does anyone know where or how I can get the top retaining clip for the vertical shaft,that connects to the choke flaps on a Weber 28/36 DMA carburettor fittted to a DS 23 Pallas,late 74 model. I removed the top part of the carburettor today,so that I could replace the inlet pipe with the threaded replacement pipe sold to me by Richo,and bugger me, I accidentally lost the top clip down the DS "black hole",where nuts ,washers and other small items end up,never to be seen again. I wasted at least 2 hours looking for it,but I have no idea where this clip is hiding. Thanks everyone and cheers . Joe

    Joe,
    That clip looks remarkably of the type found on door lock mechanisms? [And Weber carbs ]
    For replacement you could use one of those small metal internal gripping washers. Sometimes used for retaining plastic trim.
    These are available in an assortment pack from your hardware/ironmongers shop.


    PS. On magnetic or otherwise pick-up tools. I have a telescopic magnetic pick up with built in led. Bunnings $9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest View Post
    PS. On magnetic or otherwise pick-up tools. I have a telescopic magnetic pick up with built in led. Bunnings $9.
    My wife claims I must have portable loud hailer in the workshop. She says can hear the cursing and swearing when a small item is dropped into the bowels of the car.

    If often wondered if I purchased and used one if it would make me feel any better ?

    .... or speed up the recovery of the item

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest View Post
    Joe,
    That clip looks remarkably of the type found on door lock mechanisms? [And Weber carbs ]
    For replacement you could use one of those small metal internal gripping washers. Sometimes used for retaining plastic trim.
    These are available in an assortment pack from your hardware/ironmongers shop.


    PS. On magnetic or otherwise pick-up tools. I have a telescopic magnetic pick up with built in led. Bunnings $9.
    Thanks for the advice Wildebeest. I will go to Bunnings tomorrow,to look for those gripping washers you mention,and also I might as well get that telesopic magnetic pick up rod you mention, because I have come to realise that when fiddling with anything under the bonnet of a Citroen,there is always the chance that something will inevitably drop and then the expletives and search begins. Cheers and many thanks Joe
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    Magnets from the back of audio speakers make good tools for "trawling" for lost ferrous objects.
    Computer hard drives also have very powerful magnets in them.

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    Those clips look familiar. You will find them on Weber carb on R10s & R12s. I found something similar on an R12 front door although I think it was larger.

    I will root around in my box of dead carbs and see what's there.
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    Most any auto parts store should have a similar, suitable clip for less than a dollar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daffyduck View Post
    Most any auto parts store should have a similar, suitable clip for less than a dollar.
    Maybe in the USA Wally, not here, more's the pity.

    Other Weber carbs probably the best bet if it can't be found.

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    Rob & Joe,
    As you get on in years you will have to accept that any rare part that is dropped and lost has been spirited away by the Venusians.
    They wont bother with that 3/8" nut you've dropped, why? Because they have plenty of these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest View Post
    Rob & Joe,
    As you get on in years you will have to accept that any rare part that is dropped and lost has been spirited away by the Venusians.
    They wont bother with that 3/8" nut you've dropped, why? Because they have plenty of these.
    Ain't that the truth. I never seem to lose a part which I have have plenty of.

    Case and point I dropped the 5/16 UNC nut off the PBR brake booster. A Peugeot owner never has non metric spares. So I pulled the booster out and now the studs are M8.

    I pity the poor dude who gets as reconditioned c/over unit in time to come 'tho.

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    I actually go one better than the magnetic pick up tool....A metal detector wand.

    Last month it paid for itself.


    The pump dude who repaired the bore dropped some brass screws in the long grass and they were a realy weird size and shape. He narrowed down the search radius to about 5 square meters.

    This killed our water supply which is a massive inconvenience for the two houses that the bore feeds.
    It was a sunday too, and washing clothe and having showers had banked up since friday.

    No worries for me, 10 minutes with the metal detector wand came up with these brass screws, and a few other bits and bobs that the Venusians had hoarded over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exfrogger View Post
    Those clips look familiar. You will find them on Weber carb on R10s & R12s. I found something similar on an R12 front door although I think it was larger.

    I will root around in my box of dead carbs and see what's there.
    Hi there Exfrogger. You may be right,because I do remember my brothers 1969 Renault 16 TL,that he owned in the seventies I think had a Weber carb,so maybe as you say the R10 and R12 had Weber carbs. I would really appreciate it if you could take a look at your dead Weber carbs,and see if they have this retaining clip. I will pay you whatever you want if you find one that fits my 28/36 DMA. I sent an email to a place here in Melbourne called Thornbury Carburettors,that have been in buslness for 52 years,they specialise in all Weber carbs,they sent me a reply email telling me that they don't have that clip in stock,and when they looked up the Weber parts manual,that part is no longer available. I wonder if I should just give up and adapt something else to use as a retainig clip,in the meantime I hope someone can tell me where to find one. Cheers and thanks for trying your best for me. Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeest View Post
    Rob & Joe,
    As you get on in years you will have to accept that any rare part that is dropped and lost has been spirited away by the Venusians.
    They wont bother with that 3/8" nut you've dropped, why? Because they have plenty of these.
    Actually I think all rare parts dropped in the "black hole",most probably re materialise on the planet Klingon,to be used as precious metal bling for the female Klingons.
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    Send my your address and will put one in a small, padded, envelope. Will take a few days to get to you as I am in the Los Angeles area of Southern California - that is in the US for all those geographically challenged.

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    Is that US as in short for USSR?
    You do know that Aussiefrogs is an Austrian website.
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    Have heard viscous rumors to that effect....but in the past have just put them off as the drunken ramblings of disgruntled Tasmanian's.

    As to 'US' being a contraction for USSR - being from the small burg of Berkeley in Northern California I got use to a lot of the rest of the US referring to it as a far West suburb of Moscow in the 60's..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by arunine View Post
    Is that US as in short for USSR?
    You do know that Aussiefrogs is an Austrian website.
    Well, those Ukraine girls really do knock me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrodelectric View Post
    Well, those Ukraine girls really do knock me out.

    An Austrian website? So, meinte es sollen wir Deutsch sprechen ? Na, das gefallaelt mir. Ich kann das tun. (very badly, anyway)
    Sie sprechen deutsch, i feel at home

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    Lassen Sie uns sprechen weber vergaser clip.

    WooHooo
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    Quote Originally Posted by daffyduck View Post
    Lassen Sie uns sprechen weber vergaser clip.

    WooHooo
    WoooHooo
    WoooHoooo
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