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    last traction leaving the factory

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    Big 6 right ? I love the wheels

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    Bit hard to say exactly but the front guards and bonnet extension panels look wrong for a six. That does not mean that someone didn't try to stuff a six engine and gearbox into it. My bet is that it is a 1938-9 Familiale with the four cylinder engine in it. The add description is misleading! 11 C6 ????????? Where did they get that from?
    More likely an 11F or if it is an 11C it would have to be the Commerciale. There is no way of telling from just that photo!
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    He incorrectly describes that car as an 11BL when it is in fact an 11B Normale.
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    One for sale in Finland

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    Described as BL11
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    First registered 1946
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    The car has been on what they call Museum registration since 2004

    This was the only photo
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    Yes you can see the early type of front seat with the exposed chrome rail. Note the semaphore signals mounted in their own little boxes on the lower part of the A pillar! Obviously not Lucas units ----probably of Continental manufacture!
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    Hi Guys

    The car is a a 1956 11C, a Commerciale, (with pre war Pilot wheels), the same as the last traction to leave the factory in '57

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Hi Guys

    The car is a a 1956 11C, a Commerciale, (with pre war Pilot wheels), the same as the last traction to leave the factory in '57

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    Correct!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    Yes I have seen that kind of damage on a traction before. They are really very strong against frontal impact. Also side impact.
    I inspected a car that was for sale as a parts car. It had been hit in the drivers door by an MG TC. The MG driver was drunk and T boned the Traction. The lower sill moved 3 inches and the centre of the door pillar moved six inches.
    The TA driver received a bruised arm, and the MG was totally destroyed. The engine was 50 yards down the road and the chassis split apart. The only reason the MG driver survived was the fact that being drunk he rolled after being thrown from the car.
    Another TA I saw was in a wrecking yard. It had been hit front on and the car had buckled upwards at roughly the engine side damper mounts. The passenger compartment was totally intact but the front doors would not shut and unfortunately the driver of this car was impaled on the steering column.
    Probably has a lot to do with the hidden 'angle' L section steel welded to the inner sill & running the length of the door section. This is covered by the outer sill (rocker) panels. I believe the designers were a bit nervous as it was one of the first monocoques so built in some extra strength.
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    Have a look at a DS sill beam. They are triple strength as well! No nervousness involved at all just common sense and no cheapskate solutions. ------After all the car was built by engineers not a committee where accountants rule!
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    rather than a new thread might i bump this one just to get a date for this brochure?
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    L'Album de La traction suggests the 11D 4 cylinder motor was fitted from May 1955.
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    thank you very much for that - way beyond my references, or wikipedia ...
    makes it quite a late Kow, i'm thinking
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    Gerry,
    My father had a pre-war traction with wires and also a fabric sectioned roof. It was handed on to my grandfather. I found it in later years rusting away in a paddock in Eltham. The wire wheels were handed on to Andrew Rankine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leon sims View Post
    Gerry,
    My father had a pre-war traction with wires and also a fabric sectioned roof. It was handed on to my grandfather. I found it in later years rusting away in a paddock in Eltham. The wire wheels were handed on to Andrew Rankine.
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    Was it a mid/dark blue colour? If so I have the bonnet from that car!
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    Too far back to remember but if not black then you could be right about dark blue. Did you locate it in Eltham?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leon sims View Post
    Too far back to remember but if not black then you could be right about dark blue. Did you locate it in Eltham?
    It came off a car that was in a yard on the Eltham Montmorency Road just near the rail overpass!
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    Yes - that was our car.

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    I keep agonising on whether or not to fit this bonnet to the 11Bl. I have re-chromed the handles and centre strip, purchased new bonnet door handles, and fabricated a replacement rear left bonnet door. The old one was rusted through. It needs a new bracket for the bonnet stay that I obtained from Andrew Begelhole to be welded into place. Then it will be ready to go!
    On the subject of pre-war Citroens, our first Traction was a 1938 11CL2 from Slough. Dad purchased the car in 1954 from Shields Motors in Spring Street. The car was the personal vehicle of Mr. Lyle Nagle, one of the Directors at that time. We ran that car until the clutch cable broke in the middle of a down shift to second and the shock opened up the gearbox casing and bell housing. It was finally cut up in 1964 despite many protests from myself and now lies entombed under the Eastern Freeway. I still have the instrument gauges, cylinder head and the carby/ manifold assembly.
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    There is some nice pictures here.

    French Accent: Riding In A 1955 CitroŽn Traction Avant - Roadkill

    Is that what the french car interiors looked like when new? The white steering wheel looks odd to me.
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    The large boot cars had that treatment across the top of the dash that included the instrument cluster in the window frame. It was painted "Gris Clair" and the steering wheel matches this. Earlier steering wheels were black. Note that the seat material is a mix of vinyl and striped cloth, and that the striping is different from the 1950 and 51 cars. I think that they were trying to make the interior a bit more durable. There is even what looks like a vinyl panel on the firewall bulge.
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