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    My (2002) C5 radio has died. According to my Citroen service provider it has an "internal audio fault". (Note, the CD player still works OK).

    I am feeling as if I am out on a limb here. The radio is integrated with the dashboard and the multifunction display, it is "no longer available as a spare part" and it is security coded as well. I haven't found any car audio specialist in Melbourne who expresses a keen interest in my problem.

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    Where do I go from here? I really cannot accept that I now have to buy a portable transistor radio from Harvey Norman and hang it around my neck whenever I'm behind the wheel!

    Any suggestions at all from other owners would be most welcome.

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    In your shoes and assuming you are DIY-inclined, I'd be looking for any dry solder joints on the circuit board as a first step. If you can't find any obvious physical fault, take it to a car audio repairer, look for a used unit or look for an adapter cable (eBay or car audio specialist) that plugs into the Citroen harness and allows you to fit a different unit (you would probably lose some functionality though). The factory radio should be VIN-coded and you'd need a diagnostic tool to code it and possibly some other security codes.

    Edit: A final thought is that poor radio reception in early C5's can sometimes be due to the amplifier in the roof mounted aerial failing. You could test another aerial if your problem is very poor reception as opposed to a total failure of the radio. If the CD works, it's obviously not the amplifier part of the radio unit at fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    My (2002) C5 radio has died. According to my Citroen service provider it has an "internal audio fault". (Note, the CD player still works OK).

    I am feeling as if I am out on a limb here. The radio is integrated with the dashboard and the multifunction display, it is "no longer available as a spare part" and it is security coded as well. I haven't found any car audio specialist in Melbourne who expresses a keen interest in my problem.

    Where do I go from here? I really cannot accept that I now have to buy a portable transistor radio from Harvey Norman and hang it around my neck whenever I'm behind the wheel!

    Any suggestions at all from other owners would be most welcome.
    That's charming. I thought dealers were obliged to make spare parts available for ten years.

    Not a C5 owner (Xantia being the closest) but I've obtained parts before now that came up NLA from the local Citroen dealer.

    Apart from David's usual good advice, I suggest:

    1. You could consider a call to Continentals in Sydney, who've helped me out before,
    2. French Connection in Melbourne for a S/H one, or
    3. one of the web-based suppliers or dealers in UK (Google). With luck someone with slightly more specific advice will reply too.

    Good luck.
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    The tuners pack up, as per David.
    Mine is on the way out, taking time to tune in by cold weather.
    Thatís typical of electrolytic capacitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clogzz View Post
    The tuners pack up, as per David.
    Mine is on the way out, taking time to tune in by cold weather.
    Thatís typical of electrolytic capacitors.

    Have a look at the top of electrolytic capacitors.

    Any which are bulging upwards or are even slightly convex on the top are stuffed. Usually they bulge along the triangular marking on the top. Rarely, they split longitudinally.

    They can be easily removed with a small tipped temperature controlled soldering iron and solder wick or a solder "sucker"

    Replacements are available at Jaycar or Altronics. When you refit them observe polarity, normally marked on the circuit board. Replacement electrolytics should be the nearest voltage/ capacitance available. Usually it's not too critical provided the replacement is the same or higher voltage rating.

    I have repaired many computer mother boards, simply by visually finding bulging capacitors.

    You need to really careful delsodering and re-soldering 'tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Have a look at the top of electrolytic capacitors.

    Any which are bulging upwards or are even slightly convex on the top are stuffed. Usually they bulge along the triangular marking on the top. Rarely, they split longitudinally.

    They can be easily removed with a small tipped temperature controlled soldering iron and solder wick or a solder "sucker"

    Replacements are available at Jaycar or Altronics. When you refit them observe polarity, normally marked on the circuit board. Replacement electrolytics should be the nearest voltage/ capacitance available. Usually it's not too critical provided the replacement is the same or higher voltage rating.

    I have repaired many computer mother boards, simply by visually finding bulging capacitors.

    You need to really careful delsodering and re-soldering 'tho.
    rob -youare talking skills that are becoming increasingly rare. the tragedy of the internet is that everyone now knows the problem but few know the solution.
    Those people that say I know - generally don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Boulton View Post
    rob -youare talking skills that are becoming increasingly rare. the tragedy of the internet is that everyone now knows the problem but few know the solution.
    Probably true, Ron.

    My background is to fault find and repair where possible. Many years behind a bench repairing professional audio equipment taught me that.

    Combined with a have-a-go attitude, I have tackled most electronic repairs (and mechanical repairs). After all if it is not working you have little to loose. If it becomes too frustrating or self destructs on dis-assembly or power up - tough.

    It's disgusting how many items are tossed away because of a minor, cheap to repair, fault.

    I guess it's my Scots' heritage coming in!

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