XM headlights
  • Register
  • Help
Page 1 of 2 12 Last
Results 1 to 25 of 27

Thread: XM headlights

  1. #1
    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Ballarat,Vic,Aust.
    Posts
    16,426

    Default XM headlights

    Hi Guys,

    has anyone had success improving the pathetic light output from XM headlights?? The car here is so poor you can't even tell if the light are switched on if there is much ambient lighting (without checking to see if you have dash lights on). High beam is pretty pathetic too. Short of panel beating the front end to fit some CX/GS/BX lights in there ... Has anyone tried anything else? Ugly driving lights for the front would fix the high beam issue. What about low beam though (if I fit driving lights, high beam to low beam will be the eqivelant of switchng the headlights completelly off as far as the driver is concerned).

    Advertisement


    I dont' think the headlights on a traction running 6volts could be much worse ... .sigh ....

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    'Cit' homepage:
    Citroen Workshop
    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/citro%EBn-forum/90325-best-project-car-you-have-ever-seen.html
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

  2. #2
    Sans Pond. STALLED's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    2,864

    Default

    XM Mechanic just installed a HID kit in his...
    2005 Renault Clio 182 Cup

    2011 Renault Megane 250 Cup Trophee - Sold

    1997 Peugeot 406 2.0 Manual - On Loan

    2004 Citroen C3 1.4 80th Anniversary (RIP)

  3. #3
    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Ballarat,Vic,Aust.
    Posts
    16,426

    Default

    I wonder if it worked .... Hmm... there those lights I hate as the "blast" oncoming cars with bright light everytime the car goes over a bump right??

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    'Cit' homepage:
    Citroen Workshop
    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

  4. #4
    Administrator GreenBlood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    8,185

    Icon3

    Quote Originally Posted by STALLED View Post
    XM Mechanic just installed a HID kit in his...
    http://www.citroenet.org.uk/passenge.../xm/xm-14.html

    Cheers
    Chris
    74 D(very Special) >>Rejuvenation Thread<<
    08 C5 X7 HDi very Noir



    "Déesse" Roland Barthes, 'Mythologies', 1957

    The Déesse has all the characteristics of one of those objects fallen from another universe that fed the mania for novelty in the eighteenth century and a similar mania expressed by modern science fiction: the Déesse is first and foremost the new Nautilus.

    (Umberto Eco [Ed], The History of Beauty, Rizzoli, NY, 2004)

  5. #5
    Sans Pond. STALLED's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    2,864

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I wonder if it worked .... Hmm... there those lights I hate as the "blast" oncoming cars with bright light everytime the car goes over a bump right??

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    Not if you set it up right - it should be ok!
    2005 Renault Clio 182 Cup

    2011 Renault Megane 250 Cup Trophee - Sold

    1997 Peugeot 406 2.0 Manual - On Loan

    2004 Citroen C3 1.4 80th Anniversary (RIP)

  6. #6
    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Ballarat,Vic,Aust.
    Posts
    16,426

    Default

    Gee's there quite cheap on fleabay the HID kits ( < $100.00). I'll have to find out which frequency/power is the best. Higher output doens't mean sh!t if it's light your eyes can't see with ( eg: LED lighting is shocking, no matter how bright it is).

    High beam .... Lets throw some 120watt globes in there and see how we go

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    'Cit' homepage:
    Citroen Workshop
    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

  7. #7
    Fellow Frogger! Boyracer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Sydney South
    Posts
    601

    Default

    Just be careful if buying on eBay. I've heard most headlight units are for LHD cars.
    Cheers,
    Michael

    ____________________________

    Citroen Car Club of NSW - Member

    1974 Citroen DS23 non Pallas BW Auto/Carby with Air-conditioning [AC640 Delta Blue]
    1972 Citroen DS21 5SPD EFI Pallas [AC088 Blanc Meije]

    2012 Citroen C5 Exclusive 3.0L Auto Diesel [Noir Perla Nera]



  8. #8
    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Ballarat,Vic,Aust.
    Posts
    16,426

    Default

    On ebay your buying the globes, it's the headlight reflectors and glass that denotes RHD/LHD

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    'Cit' homepage:
    Citroen Workshop
    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

  9. #9
    Fellow Frogger! Boyracer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Sydney South
    Posts
    601

    Default

    Oops, my mistake. I thought you guys were talking about the headlight units.

    There's been talk on other car forums I frequent about people mistakenly buying and fitting LHD units.

    Never mind me, carry on then.
    Cheers,
    Michael

    ____________________________

    Citroen Car Club of NSW - Member

    1974 Citroen DS23 non Pallas BW Auto/Carby with Air-conditioning [AC640 Delta Blue]
    1972 Citroen DS21 5SPD EFI Pallas [AC088 Blanc Meije]

    2012 Citroen C5 Exclusive 3.0L Auto Diesel [Noir Perla Nera]



  10. #10
    Sans Pond. STALLED's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    2,864

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    High beam .... Lets throw some 120watt globes in there and see how we go

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    Don't be a tool.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boyracer View Post
    Just be careful if buying on eBay. I've heard most headlight units are for LHD cars.
    Yep and they won't be ADR approved...
    2005 Renault Clio 182 Cup

    2011 Renault Megane 250 Cup Trophee - Sold

    1997 Peugeot 406 2.0 Manual - On Loan

    2004 Citroen C3 1.4 80th Anniversary (RIP)

  11. #11
    Fellow Frogger! XM Mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    306

    Default

    I have the kit I haven't installed them yet. I'll report back on when its done. I wasn't going to do anything with the high beam as it really isn't too bad.
    They really are woeful low beam lights.
    Regards,

    Garth.


    Fixin' Cit's.

    '19 308 GTi
    '15 DS 5
    '74 GS Convertisseur

    In the family
    '51 Traction
    '08 C5 X7 V6

    Previous ownership
    '95 XM V6 Series 2
    '96 306 XTDT

  12. #12
    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Ballarat,Vic,Aust.
    Posts
    16,426

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by STALLED View Post
    Don't be a tool.



    Yep and they won't be ADR approved...
    What's wrong with high wattage on high beam ??? I do that to all my cars with some nice hefty wiring and relays .... You just find the highest wattage globes for sale you can find and stick 'em in there. As a bonus they'll melt the ice on the road as the car drives along

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    'Cit' homepage:
    Citroen Workshop
    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

  13. #13
    Fellow Frogger
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    9,777

    Default

    It's the dipped lighting that's relatively inadequate and could do with an HID kit. It's also partly due to intended design feature of a sharp cutoff to avoid dazzling oncoming drivers.

  14. #14
    Fellow Frogger! denxm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    uki aust
    Posts
    449

    Default headlights

    i put a set of hid [x-ebay] for my low beams,easy to fit, no problems at all,does show up the road-signs-people better, no problem with glare, asked some truckies on uhf, did they cause a problem,they said all good,just make sure they are adjusted ,as i do a lot of country miles, found it lights up the road margins a lot better, worth doing

  15. #15
    1000+ Posts George 1/8th's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Melbourne, Victoria.
    Posts
    1,389

    Default

    Hey Denxm,
    was the kit very expensive?


    Cheers...George 1/8th

  16. #16
    Fellow Frogger! denxm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    uki aust
    Posts
    449

    Default hid for xm

    hey george 1/8th
    the kit for low beam was about $130 from memory,
    think they were 4500 type, white light,35watt, have lost the packet so not able to check
    away from car at moment so not able to look
    denxm

  17. #17
    1000+ Posts George 1/8th's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Melbourne, Victoria.
    Posts
    1,389

    Default

    Ok thanks DenXM, just considering the idea at this stage.

    Cheers George 1/8th

  18. #18
    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Ballarat,Vic,Aust.
    Posts
    16,426

    Default

    That's a good point, the Xantia headlights are nearly as bad as XM headlights.... hmmm.....

    They obviously couldn't get decent headlights with the shape of light they needed to use given the shape of the car. the optical characteristics must be completely wrong.

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    'Cit' homepage:
    Citroen Workshop
    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

  19. #19
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    49

    Default XM lights

    Shane, have you tried routing power direct from batt to lights via relay/s with the power from binnacle light switch only being used to trigger the relay/s? I've toyed with this for the Xantia but haven't gotten around to it. The weakness in the system is the current drop and taking it direct from batt is meant to make it better such that high perf.55w halogens do their job as intended
    Kellyo

  20. #20
    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Ballarat,Vic,Aust.
    Posts
    16,426

    Default

    I think the wiring is ok.... I'll throw a voltmeter on the globes next time I look at it and see what the voltage drop through the wiring and switch is like

    I think the lights are just a crap design from new.

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    'Cit' homepage:
    Citroen Workshop
    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

  21. #21
    1000+ Posts George 1/8th's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Melbourne, Victoria.
    Posts
    1,389

    Default

    Hey guys, the local autobarn want about $180.00 for a kit, that they don't guarantee is street legal.

    From what I can gather, the original lights are called H1 halogens. The other thing to consider is the type of globe mount/bayonet. I know the CX headlights had a mount called the P43t.
    Does anyone know the one that the Xantia uses? Probably the same type as the XM. But what is it called?

    Cheers...George 1/8th

  22. #22
    Fellow Frogger! XM Mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    306

    Default

    Well I have installed the HID lights in the low beam position on the XM headlights with the assistance of SLC206 and XM Driver.

    Lets just say they are brilliant.

    I have just been for a drive on a wet Sydney night and they are what the headlights should be. The original headlights you wouldn't actually be able to see them on the road on a wet night.

    Will work on a how to and post later.
    Regards,

    Garth.


    Fixin' Cit's.

    '19 308 GTi
    '15 DS 5
    '74 GS Convertisseur

    In the family
    '51 Traction
    '08 C5 X7 V6

    Previous ownership
    '95 XM V6 Series 2
    '96 306 XTDT

  23. #23
    sans witticism SLC206's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    North Parramatta
    Posts
    3,997

    Default

    They are pretty good - nearly as good as the 207 now

    I'd have to say the effort involved certainly justified the result.
    Regards,

    Simon

    2018 308 GTi 2011 DS3 DSport
    ----
    2014 208 GTi 2007 207 GTi 2004 206 GTi180 2000 206 GTi 1995 306 XT

    www.peugeotclub.asn.au

  24. #24
    Member XantiaHead's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Canberra, ACT
    Posts
    88

    Default

    Well I have installed the HID lights in the low beam position on the XM headlights with the assistance of SLC206 and XM Driver.

    Lets just say they are brilliant.
    XM Mechanic, may I ask where you got the HID units?

    Also, if you don't mind me asking, how much were they?

    Cheers,

    Andrew Matusiewicz
    1999 Xantia SX 16 valve 5 speed

  25. #25
    Fellow Frogger! XM Mechanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    306

    Default

    Andrew,

    Arco Imports. http://www.hidlighting.com.au/

    $200.00 55 watt slimline ballast kit.

    Kit came with everything I required except for small girly hands to work on an XM.

    Ordered Fri came Mon, spoke with real person, said if 55 watts too bright he was happy to swap to 35 watts. Answered any questions I had.
    Regards,

    Garth.


    Fixin' Cit's.

    '19 308 GTi
    '15 DS 5
    '74 GS Convertisseur

    In the family
    '51 Traction
    '08 C5 X7 V6

    Previous ownership
    '95 XM V6 Series 2
    '96 306 XTDT

Page 1 of 2 12 Last

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •