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    Towbar for Citroen Xantia

    I'm looking for a towbar for the Xantia. Don't seem to be able to find one in Perth and Citroen say they haven't any.

    I wondered if anyone in the eastern States knew of one - doesn't have to be new but does need to be OK and with whatever fittings they came with!

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    John,

    I'd suggest looking up Hayman Reece on the 'net or Bocar.
    Hayman Reece make the ultimate tow bar with a system which is very easy on the car doing the towing and I've never heard anyone ever make a complaint against their bars.
    Bocar are a company down the Gold Coast who have been in business for donkeys years and are very competant tradesmen. They do a lot of fancy stuff in aluminium and their work is first class. Prices would be cheaper than Haymans I would imagine. If you can't deal direct, I'm sure you will find both have agents Australia wide.

    Hope this is some help.

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    Many thanks Alan.

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    [quote]Originally posted by JohnW:
    <strong>Many thanks Alan.

    JohnW</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Alan,

    I've tried both those sources and neither can help. So now I'm doing the rounds of the more easily contactable dealers. Doesn't look promising at present........

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    John,

    That really does sound unusual as these two make them for some very weird and wonderful things. I thought Haymans would have for sure and with Bocar being at the Gold Coast............
    Had a thought that might be worth checking out before you get too far down the line with a custom bar or something; Wonder if you can't buy a bar because you shouldn't have one on them?
    Active suspension and all that kind of thing Might be an interesting thought wouldn't you agree?

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    I'm sure I've seen them around.

    Why would the suspension be a problem with towing?

    I know it's a bit far away but Continental Cars in Sydney are pumping out Citroens in a big way. It may pay you to email them as they may have a supplier you can contact.

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    It was just a thought, but with a system that softens and hardens with road conditions, I thought perhaps a tonne of say caravan bouncing around on the back when the suspension was in soft mode might give you a bit of a thrill I know the suspension changes for road conditions but does it also allow for unusual loads and if so which would take precedence? Load or road HEY!! I'm a poet :p

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    Reply to the last three messages!

    Thanks guys.

    1. I am currently waiting for Continental Motors to check their used stock - nothing new in their inventory. Good idea - I went through the Citroen Aust. web page and emailed the dealers with email addresses. Most replied, and not all is yet lost.

    2. Mine isn't active suspension. Should be fine for towing. Actually I don't need to tow but want the option and previously thought it might be better to get a towbar now while it was easy! Glad it isn't difficult yet.

    I'm spoiled with 30+ year old Renaults for which I can get parts, I guess.

    3. I'm a little disappointed with Citroen not having one so soon after the model was discontinued, but such is life.

    This little matter doesn't matter at all when I drive the car. I have a big grin in my Renault 16TS, but the top of the head just about falls off in the Xantia!

    Cheers

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    Hi Guys,

    Xantia's should definatly tow big weights well (the car itself is so bloody solid/strong compared to all earlier Cit's). My parents Xantia has a towbar, but I would guess it's a factory bar that was supplied with the car.

    I can't believe no-one will make a towbar up for you!! Where are you? I'm sure Dad wouldn't mind them measuring ours up to use as a template!

    I've a couple of friends with Fuegos. Towbars for them seem very hard to comeby. However the local towbar places still offered to make one up, they said they'd just get the plans from somewhere....

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    Can't believe you can't get a towbar for a Xantia in Aus. Xantia is one of the most popular towcars in UK and Europe and an ex "towcar of the year".(Competition run by the UK Caravan Club) This year the C5 won a category and the BX was a previous winner. They are excellent for towing caravans and trailers BECAUSE of the self levelling suspension which deals so well with the extra weight on the back - same as putting a load in the boot. I speak from experience having towed with Cits for the past 15 years as far as Greece (that's a long way in Europe but a trip to the shops for you!) - I wouldn't have any other car to tow with - Cits are best. Would it be possible for you to ship from UK - there are several reputable manufacturers eg Witter. If you want other companies reply and I'll sed a list of addresses/web-sites
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    That's got to be bullshit!! Any towbar place worth a pinch should be able to make you one up. I'm going to go down to the local place @ lunchtime & get you a quote. They can use my old mans Xantia for a template if they want!

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    [quote]Originally posted by PhilW:
    <strong>Can't believe you can't get a towbar for a Xantia in Aus. Xantia is one of the most popular towcars in UK and Europe and an ex "towcar of the year".(Competition run by the UK Caravan Club) This year the C5 won a category and the BX was a previous winner. They are excellent for towing caravans and trailers BECAUSE of the self levelling suspension which deals so well with the extra weight on the back - same as putting a load in the boot. I speak from experience having towed with Cits for the past 15 years as far as Greece (that's a long way in Europe but a trip to the shops for you!) - I wouldn't have any other car to tow with - Cits are best. Would it be possible for you to ship from UK - there are several reputable manufacturers eg Witter. If you want other companies reply and I'll sed a list of addresses/web-sites
    PhilW</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Thanks for all the offers! I expect, if I paid enough, I'd find someone in Perth who'd make one if I had a template. I'll chase the local club if I need to. In the meantime, I may be onto a secondhand one, and then Shane's quote may come through....

    Cheers

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    Well the towbar matter has finally been sorted I think. Taylors in Adelaide have come up with one ex-France for me. Great service!

    Thanks for all the advice and suggestions.

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    Towbar successfully fitted! Very elegant too.

    Many thanks again for the earlier advice to those who responded.

    Cheers,

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    Struth John,

    When I saw this string pop to the surface again with your handle attached, the first thing that went through my mind was - I hope he's not going to tell us thatnow he's got the tow bar, it won't tow what he wants it to
    Half expecting a message about how you've had to buy a V8 Commodore or something
    Wow, what a relief
    Good to see you got it sorted; proves that nothing's impossible

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    Thanks Alan,

    You needn't worry about the V8 business with me - can set your mind at rest there. I used to tow about 1/2 to 1 ton with the R8 without too much trouble (ignoring minor legal issues of course).

    Appreciate the response.

    The real praise is to Taylors in Adelaide, who were the only dealer to seriously help except for the people in Sydney (?Continental Motors?).

    I still can't quite work out whether my suspension is misbehaving or just Citroenesque. Doesn't like the upper of the two "driving" positions (rear goes to the top stop) and sometimes the front goes up quite a way when backing and filling slowly from lock to lock. I take the "leave well alone approach" unless I feel there is something expensive that can be diagnosed and headed off. Seems fine when driving - a bit firm at low speeds but fabulous otherwise. Any brief thoughts?

    Unfortunately, I haven't driven another yet. Rumour has it that there are precisely 23 in Perth!!

    Cheers

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    I too am looking for a towbar for my Xantia.

    I have tried nearly every euro wrecker in AUS, No luck


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    Quote Originally Posted by xantia_vsx
    I too am looking for a towbar for my Xantia.

    I have tried nearly every euro wrecker in AUS, No luck

    Now that's what I call retrieving an old thread!!!

    I should have added a post with the final outcome, at least as I remember it. One day, about 18 months ago, I had a call from Taylor's Peugeot in Adelaide, "Your towbar has arrived sir."

    "Ah," I thought. "Don't remember exactly ordering one, but maybe I did."

    "Thanks," I said, carefully. "Where did you get it in the end?"

    "France, sir."

    "Ah," I said, even more carefully. "Did we actually discuss cost?"

    "Yes sir, and it will be $ whatever (I don't remember the exact amount.) But in your case, as it is a special order (my heart sank!!) we will give you a 10% discount."

    Lovely people Taylor's Peugeot!!!! It came to Perth cheaply and I had it fitted. Lovely elegant towbar, rated at 1,500 kg. A tad phallic. Causes much amusement at work.

    I think it was about $400 but can't remember exactly. But they produced it and it is excellent.

    So you could call them. Very impressive service.

    Cheers

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    Hi John,

    The only option at this moment is to get one built

    Do you have the phone number for taylors in adelaide as i have searched and not been able to find it

    Yes it was an old message that i picked up from you, but thats the beauty of online forums


    just imaging it's my famous home brew, 13.9% WooHoo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xantia_vsx
    Hi John,

    The only option at this moment is to get one built

    Do you have the phone number for taylors in adelaide as i have searched and not been able to find it

    Yes it was an old message that i picked up from you, but thats the beauty of online forums


    just imaging it's my famous home brew, 13.9% WooHoo!
    Not obvious now I think about it. The company is listed as Taylors of Medindee, phone (08) 8269 9500, email [email protected] and a web page www.taylorsofmedindee.com.au.

    I've found them good to deal with, even from Perth.

    Cheers

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    Citroen got back to me after i called them several times 's

    $340 Inc GST for towbar
    $280 Inc GST Installation including Wired Plug



    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
    F#@!ing french Torana

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    Quote Originally Posted by xantia_vsx
    Citroen got back to me after i called them several times 's

    $340 Inc GST for towbar
    $280 Inc GST Installation including Wired Plug



    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
    F#@!ing french Torana
    Hmmm... let me guess
    Floating french Torana?
    Flying french Torana?
    Fanging french Torana?

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    Good discussion here, but could I ask a favour or two?

    1. Could a moderator make my towbars thread in 'Parts for sale' a 'sticky'?

    2. Could anyone with a towbar query post on that thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xantia_vsx
    Citroen got back to me after i called them several times 's

    $340 Inc GST for towbar
    $280 Inc GST Installation including Wired Plug



    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
    F#@!ing french Torana
    Towbar price sounds similar to what I paid. Installation is about double what I paid.

    The genuine ones are very elegant towbars. Suit the car.....

    JohnW

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