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    Default I want one of these! (BX TZD Break)

    During my daily pilgrimage to eBay in search of BX'ish gear I spotted this:

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Citroen-BX-Tu...QQcmdZViewItem

    And yes, I know they were never imported here except maybe privately and I couldn't afford one even if they were. But hey, I can wish.

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    She's had a rugged paint job on the roof if you look closely.
    He's painted the rubber strips and the roofrack at the same time................all the one colour!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan S
    She's had a rugged paint job on the roof if you look closely.
    He's painted the rubber strips and the roofrack at the same time................all the one colour!!

    Alan S
    Yeah, but beggars can't be choosers! And paint is easy to fix, if that's all that's wrong with it! (prolly not)

    I wonder how many stamps he'd have to lick to post it to me....

    Funny thing is, when I first saw pictures of the Break I said "Yuk, how ugly!", but now I think they look great. And the practicality...

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    My parents in NZ have a turbo diesel sedan, and it is the bollocks. 55mpg and pulls as hard as a petrol GT. The turbo whistle when you floor it at open road speeds could get quite addictive too.

    If I liked BXes, I would want one...

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    we have one of these, but in the petrol version (naturally aspirated) done just under 300k and hasnt stopped to complain. transmission needs rebuild soon, but overall, its a good car
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    Default BX wagon/break!

    I had a BX wagon until recently and it was a fantastic workhorse that was only sold for peanuts when the auto shat itself....worse thing is the ride to NSW must have been good for it as the new owner got a shock when it the Auto rose from the dead.....Hmmmm....reminder to myself...never badmouth your car whilst she can hear you
    It was used as a load carrier/workhorse...brilliant!!!!!!!
    now i just drive a BX19 TZI everyday...not as good a load carrier but still a great car....just love it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogboy
    I had a BX wagon until recently and it was a fantastic workhorse that was only sold for peanuts when the auto shat itself....worse thing is the ride to NSW must have been good for it as the new owner got a shock when it the Auto rose from the dead.....Hmmmm....reminder to myself...never badmouth your car whilst she can hear you
    It was used as a load carrier/workhorse...brilliant!!!!!!!
    now i just drive a BX19 TZI everyday...not as good a load carrier but still a great car....just love it!
    Cheers
    One of these days when you and I are having a yarn, I'll give you the long and painful story on just how bulletproof these autos are and just how many have been misdiagnosed as faulty based on projects we've been working on over the past couple of months.
    I would reckon that at least 75% of all ZF autos that have been condemned have been either poisoned due to incorrect fluid or maladjustments. Everybody driving the cars we've been working on are now declaring them as the smoothest auto they have ever driven with in one case, a woman mistaking the air con cutting in for the gear change, that's how smooth they are once sorted.
    There's a couple of adjustments as well as the filter that need attention as part of the entire picture and it seems that providing everything is set right they give no problems...it's been a steep learning curve but well worth all the blood, sweat, tears and occasional heart flutters.
    As I say, too involved for here as a few too many who'd like to see me fall flat on it, but I reckon we've worked the con out that's been used for years.



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    Can't agree with you more Alan......and boy do i know the pain!!!!
    Far too many cowboys around....and specialist cowboys at that...
    I have been reading your thread on Autos and my old BX's resumption of drive fits in with what you are saying....
    some just want to shoot the messenger
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    Not wanting to take this thread off topic but there can be absolutely no doubt that Alan S is spot on with his findings and experiences regarding the ZF Auto in BX's (and P405's for that matter)

    I have a good friend who is a Saab "Specialist" but one of the good ones and they use the same box and he backs up everything Alan has found completely.

    As a victim of this malady I have also experienced it first hand... I was lucky to find a rebuilt replacement that had had nothing but the right fluid in it and it has been flawless.... I would also suggest that the old box was damaged by DIII and MAY have been saved if it had a good dose of DII, the filter had been changed and the kickdown adjusted correctly.. we'll never know

    Whilst I don't always agree with the Oracle from the North his persistence and efforts in this particular crusade are to be commended by all AF members...

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    Yep.....Big thanks from me Alan Knowledge is power...though a little bit of knowledge (in my case..is a dangerous thing )
    now if only I could get back my 101,000 km auto box that was thrown out!!!
    or was it reconditioned (ie filters cleaned,right fluid,kickdown adjusted and worse case torque converter replaced!!!! )
    Like an elephant I won't forget you Joe...
    whilst I wont mention that "specialist I can say the french garage in Keys rd,Moorabbin have been great...Thanks Elliot!!
    and back to topic.....Grab a BX wagon or any BX (including an auto!!)
    They are great cars and excellent value!!!!
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    I just want the new club rego rules to come in ..... CX wagon and 40mpg anyone Seriously *massive* vehicle these things I wonder if Dad would notice it's no longer in his shed

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    Dunno about the wagon model, but my BX TZD outpulls my 16V up hills in 5th gear- the torque from that thing is quite amazing - and it gets the proverbial 55 mpg pretty much constantly. Only downside is lack of A/C (due to being my PI from England where A/C was a rarity on older cars), but I may bite the bullet with help from Alan's great writeup on installing it, and use the complete system out of my air conditioned parts car....when I get a spare month to do it in
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozziediver
    Dunno about the wagon model, but my BX TZD outpulls my 16V up hills in 5th gear- the torque from that thing is quite amazing - and it gets the proverbial 55 mpg pretty much constantly. Only downside is lack of A/C (due to being my PI from England where A/C was a rarity on older cars), but I may bite the bullet with help from Alan's great writeup on installing it, and use the complete system out of my air conditioned parts car....when I get a spare month to do it in
    If the topic is still BX wagons, I can't say enough good things. They are just wonderfully well designed as people and cargo carriers.
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    I liked them when they came out but I don't think age was very kind to them - and I still struggle to call them attractive - however when you hear stories of people sticking a ride on mower in the back! Can a Dunnydore do that?

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    By the way Shane, he did't notice.

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    Thanks Leigh

    I'd get a BX wagon tomorrow .................. It'd have to be a turbo deisel though... That way the fuel savings would pay for it's rego within a few months.... I don't think it'll near as much fun to pass cars down Yankeeflat Rd in though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Z
    Whilst I don't always agree with the Oracle from the North his persistence and efforts in this particular crusade are to be commended by all AF members...

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    nice to hear you've buried the hatchet Jack

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    Graham,

    Never used one and never carry them.... I'm happy to give praise where it's due... just as I am prepared to diagree and expect to have my opinion respected... if some people don't have the ability to do that ... that's their issue not mine

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    Does the TZD run the same 1.9 motor out of the 405 SRDT - Or am i completely wrong here?

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    The Turbodiesel wagon is a thing of great beauty, utility and economy. They can be picked up for well under $1500 in the UK but fit your own a/c. (I did and it is wonderful. Makes a BX modern.) Now here's the thing; BXs didn't rust badly, even here so we've got loads of them. To find a clean CX shell however keeps the Green Globe Gang awake at night. There are those that would sooner find one of those than an undiscovered Bugatti Royale. Anybody got any ideas how much shipping costs?

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