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    ...for a new clutch in the BX19tri? Quoted $1100 including 8hrs labour. Cheap, reasonable, on the expensive side, or would I be getting diddled? Includes machining the flywheel.

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    Thoughts?

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    I've never done a BX clutch... But sounds reasonable to me. Alan might have a better idea. I can see it easily taking 3hours out, 3hour back, 1hour clutch change. Possibly $250 for the clutch kit, so it does sound reasonable to me. Make sure you get the crank seal changed, and possibly the timing belt while it's in bits.

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    Someone help fill in the spaces

    Labour = $60/hr 8hrs=$480
    Clutch drive plate = ?
    Clutch pressure plate including integrated thrust bearing (Pull-type clutch) = ?
    Spigot bearing = probably less than $5
    Machining flywheel = $30

    Ring up Citroen parts dep. and ask the prices for piece of mind.

    I think you should be able to get away with $800-$850 easily.

    Rear Main seal should be less than $5 if you decide to replace it.
    DC-timing belt is an operation totally independant from any gearbox or clutch surgery

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris N
    ...for a new clutch in the BX19tri? Quoted $1100 including 8hrs labour. Cheap, reasonable, on the expensive side, or would I be getting diddled? Includes machining the flywheel.

    Thoughts?

    Cheers
    Chris N
    A clutch kit is ~$280 retail (*) from Auto France. That leaves $800 for labour & machining - or $100/hour. Labour seems expensive to me.

    I was quoted ~$1300 to do mine though, which makes me think the 8 hours is perhaps optimistic. I did mine in a weekend, $480 all up including the tools I had to buy.

    Things to look out for: get new drive shaft oil seals & new oil in the gearbox. Check the boots while it is apart - including the steering rack boots. The clutch fork is probably buggered - it has a crappy plastic cup thing that falls apart when you look at it - another $70 or so. Might be a good time to replace the clutch cable if it seems sticky. Make sure that new pipe seals are used for any hydraulic lines that are undone - there will be some to undo the PR & FD. What's the starter motor like? Again, good time to have this looked at if it is at all sus.

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    (*) Remember that repairers get 10-15-20% discount on parts; I consider this negotiable as well.

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    Machining the flywheel? I've never heard of this practice for just a clutch change?
    I could understand if there were a problem, like if you'd worn the plate to the rivets, but otherwise it should be perfectly smooth. john s
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    I think the question was... "is the quote reasonable?"... NOT ... "will it be cheaper to do it myself?"

    Let's remember that not everyone a) is capable; b) is competent; c) is equipped; d) has the inclination ...to do a clutch change... and let's also understand that some people want to own cars (including Citroens) and NOT do their own repairs... I hope this does not make them unworthy of being Cit owners or forum contributors...

    With all major repairs such as a clutch replacement try saving the mechanics mark up by supplying the parts yourself... that way you know what's going in there (genuine or equivalent rather than a remanufactured component) and simply pay for the labour.

    I always ask to see the old bits as well to make sure they have come off...

    Might be worth changing the cable while you're at it..

    Of course DIY will be cheaper but it is ilogical to compare a DIY price with a quote from a Mechanical Repairer who runs a business... like comparing how much to paint your own house with a quote from the painter and then noting that the painter was more expensive...

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    Thanks guys,

    Parts are ordered and on their way. Cable is being done too. Getting a number of other things done at the same time, should be a healthy bill.

    Yes, would like to be able to do it myself, but have so little experience that fixing minor problems seems too difficult. I would like to be able to do what I did with non-Citroens in the past - take it to a mechanic, get it fixed without too much fussing about ("geez it's a sitrun, can't get the parts, yes I know we fix all makes and models but not dem crazy french cars, even if you don't want us to touch the hydraulics"), pay a reasonable price, drive away assured that the problem has been properly fixed. What shits me is when I pay an exorbitant price and the work isn't done properly.

    Hopefully it's all worth it. Really quite enjoy the BX.

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    Just to add my twopennyworth you should be able to do the clutch without disturbing the hydraulics, I just remove the radiator then unbolt the regulator etc and move it away from the motor and hang it on the bonnet catch with a bit of string, on the petrol engined ones it is possible you may need to remove the pump to FDV pipe.
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    If you are in Adelaide I would only trust Leith Hughes from Aldgate Exhaust and Service centre (phone : 83396731) , there are VERY few options available in the city and one specialist in the city (I won't name here)I would'nt use even if it was the only Cit specialist left in the country!!!

    Trust me it really is worth the drive to Aldgate as Leith is a very competent Citroen specialist/enthusiast and is always recommended by the Citroen club here, give him a call for a quote!
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    I would also recomend Leith, he has yet to let me down on the XM. I provide the parts and he provides the skilled labour. Nice guy who actually likes Citroens. He also seems to know a good range of other specialists around town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raver
    If you are in Adelaide I would only trust Leith Hughes from Aldgate Exhaust and Service centre (phone : 83396731) , there are VERY few options available in the city and one specialist in the city (I won't name here)I would'nt use even if it was the only Cit specialist left in the country!!!

    Trust me it really is worth the drive to Aldgate as Leith is a very competent Citroen specialist/enthusiast and is always recommended by the Citroen club here, give him a call for a quote!
    ChrisN I hope you read this before you take it for the clutch job!

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