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    Would it be possible to build a plain english repair manual on this site. I keep a how to record of some of the things I have done on Citroens and will add it as a starting point.

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    To take the alternator off a cx
    Remove the battery to make a bit of room
    Use an 11ml spanner to undo the nut on the tightening strap,get it from the top.
    The alternator is held by a bolt with a 21ml head. This bolt can be undone from the front or the back but is bloody slow as an open ended spanner is needed & is only turned a very small amount each time.
    The bolt is screwed into a nut in the alternator bracket & as soon as the nut is freed the alternator can drop down as the hole is slotted.
    After the alternator is freed it is forced over to the battery box by bending the water hoses & the wires can then be removed.
    Before replacing I undid the hydraulic pump. 2 11ml nuts on the strap & a 14ml bolt. This allowed the pump to be moved a bit so I could get fingers on the head of the big bolt. To stop the nut falling out of the Alternator bracket I wound black tape around it.

    CX2400
    To take the starter motor off, first remove the compressor for the air-cond
    by removing the 3 bolts that hold it. They are 15 & 16 mm.
    The starter motor is held by 3 11 mm bolts. It only takes about 1 hr
    There are 2 washers as spacers between the frame and the compressor on the
    bolts nearest the mudguard. They move the pulley towards the motor to line up
    the belt.
    11/06/96
    In the solenoid the contact bar was not going forward far enough to complete
    the circuit. The bar is on a small shaft with a spring under the bar to hold it
    forward. The spring either got weak or broke so I wrapped a few turns of copper
    wire round the shaft to force the spring further forward.
    There is a plastic nut on the other end of the shaft to adjust the length the
    drive cog goes forward.

    To remove & replace the front crossmember (rack carrier).
    Jack up the front of the car & prop each side. I used 2 hydraulic jacks as props under the
    front jacking points, & remove the front wheels.
    There are 2 13mil bolts each side holding the cross member in place. Hold the nut with a 13
    ring spanner and undo the bolt with an open ender. Could probably use a little socket instead
    of the open ender but because the bolts only have a very thin head the socket would need to be
    a good one. The nuts are hard to get at but it can be done. To get the inside one the ring
    spanner needs to be horizontal.
    There are 4 13mil bolts holding the rack on the crossmember. 3 of them are easy & can be undone
    with a socket and a long extension but the top one on the right side is bloody hard. From
    under the car put the left arm in front of the member and the bolt can be just touched.
    Use the fingers to guide a bent open ender in the other hand at the back of the member &
    the bolt can be undone very slowly.
    When all the bolts are out the member can be slid out the right-hand side.
    Replace the same way.

    To remove an upper balljoint
    Take the nut off the tierod end (21 or 22 mil); remove the tierod from the hub
    Undo the nut inside the wheel for the upper balljoint. Have to use an open ender 24m
    Tap the joint & it should fall off
    The upper balljoint has a flange on the bottom (under the top arm); use the
    anglegrinder with a cutting disk to grind a piece off each side of the flange
    so the puller can get a grip.
    Use the puller with only 2 legs to drive the joint out the bottom. I used a nut
    off a gutter bolt under the point of the puller. If the puller moves sideways
    hit it back with a hammer.

    To fit a new upper balljoint
    Put the new joint in the freezer for 12hrs to reduce the diameter.
    Use the puller with 3 legs to force the balljoint into position.
    Use a 1in 3/4 drive socket over the bolt on the bottom of the balljoint to force the balljoint
    in. Use a plate over the top of the joint and a nut to put the point of the puller in.

    To remove the front axles.
    Loosen the nut holding the bottom balljoint to the lower arm. Do this while the
    car still has weight on it so the balljoint does not turn.
    Loosen the nut holding the wheel on. To do this use the 35m socket & a piece of
    pipe on the big ratchet handle.
    Jack the car up. Put the lever in the low position to lift the wheel. Let the
    pressure go.
    Undo & remove the tierod
    Undo the lower balljoint & remove it from the lower arm.
    You can now move the wheel out far enough to push the axle in to clear the wheel

    To remove the triaxe from the driveshaft
    Take off the top spring clip
    Use the cutting wheel on the anglegrinder to cut a small notch on the three
    sides of the underside of the triaxe; this lets the 3 legs of the puller get a grip.

    To ajust the handbrake
    Take the front wheel off.
    On the caliper housing there is a 11/16 bolt. Slacken it & then turn the slotted head in side the caliper housing. I think anticlockwise tightens the brake. Changing the length of the cable with the ajusting nuts doesn't seem to do anything

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    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
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    Great stuff. Did you take some piccies to go with it.

    If you look in the Common Faults section you will find some stuff:

    http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/archive-common-faults-fixes/

    Drop down the "show from" box and change it from '2 days' to 'forever' if that makes sense.

    I've also done a little on CX's and added to my webpage:
    http://www.aussiefrogs.com/shane/cx2500/cxturbo.html

    I've got a heap of stuff to add too, however I just have to find the time to type it up like you have then add the piccies.

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    PS: There is quite a few other sites with good info, we just need to bring all the links together so there easily found !
    'Cit' homepage:
    Citroen Workshop
    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/citro%EBn-forum/90325-best-project-car-you-have-ever-seen.html
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    Great stuff. Did you take some piccies to go with it.

    If you look in the Common Faults section you will find some stuff:

    http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=19

    Drop down the "show from" box and change it from '2 days' to 'forever' if that makes sense.
    The link from the main forum page to the sub-forum "common faults" includes the 'show all" within the link now.

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    sferg,

    I see you're from Gunnedah.
    I'll be there for a couple of days around the 4th Feb so if you'd like to PM me, we can swap contact details and might catch up while I'm there min between parties, barbys and gatherings of the clan.
    I'll be driving a dark blue Xantia.


    Alan S
    If it ain't broke, use a 12" shifter.....that usually does the trick!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sferg
    Would it be possible to build a plain english repair manual on this site. I keep a how to record of some of the things I have done on Citroens and will add it as a starting point.
    I have been thinking for a while thata wiki would be perfect for this, everyone could add their bit improving it over time.

    I started one on for the XM:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM_maintenance

    Since I set up the headings various people have added more detail.


    regards
    sean
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    There may be a wiki add on for this bulletin board software. I'll check that.

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