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    Bloke's Xantia Woes

    Just found this, bloke so fed up with his Xantia that he creates website to slag the thing off and advise anyone not to buy a Citroen!
    <a href="http://www.citroendont.fsnet.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.citroendont.fsnet.co.uk/</a>


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    Well,

    <a href="http://www.whatcar.com/news/report/data.asp?article=360&cat=2" target="_blank">Citroen - No 20/22</a>

    Seems the less a Citroen, a Citroen is, the more reliable it is.

    Cheers,

    Justin

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    Just out of curiosity, how bloody stupid would you have to be to keep using a door that was obviously seizing until it seized shut?
    Some of these problems may be genuine to a point, but with all due respects this bod has got to be a right tosser hasn't he? He seems to have a problem distinguishing faulty workmanship with incompetent or slip shod maintenance <img src="graemlins/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="[Tongue]" />
    As they say; some mothers do 'ave 'em <img src="graemlins/clown.gif" border="0" alt="[Clown]" /> <img src="graemlins/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="[Tongue]" />

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    I did sort of get the feeling that to become so pissed off with your car you build a website decscribing everything thats wrong with it, then you must feel quite strongly. He does not say how many miles the Xantia covered, but the broken clutch cable clip is always caused by a worn out heavy clucth, the clip is Ok for the task otherwise.
    As for the door falling off, well, it must have given some warning signs.
    I personally found it all quite amusing. Mind you, its not my car!!!!

    [ 05 April 2002: Message edited by: Jon Wood ]</p>
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    Had to do the mentioned front door hinge repair on the BX estate I owned when I bought it (at 130000ks app). Vaguely recall someone telling me it was a common BX fault, but whether that comment applied to all models or only the wagons (built at a different plant) I don't know. BX owners, go out and look at your driver's door top hinge and see if there's fracturing around it.
    As for the Pug like Cits being more reliable, it's rot. The things that let down the Xantia and XM suspension have been the electrics AFAIK, the same thing that constantly let down the reliability of my AX (read a 205/ Saxo predecessor). The only other problems I had with the AX were based on the (Pug-like) brake-fluid filled brakes leaking through their seals. Why Citroen ever thought the move to brake fluid in the C5 was a forward move I'll never know!
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    I can think of lots of words to describe this bloke but unfortunatly none are printable, but really, a bit of common sense please. If you bought a car you considered a lemon would you
    A/ Trade it in straight away while it was still worth something, or,
    B/ Make up a website bagging the car so much that your car and everyone else's car is worth absolutly nothing.
    There's no such thing as the perfect car and every manufacturer has been known to build a dud, so if your unlucky enough to buy one of these duds the smart people would just get rid of it and get on with life, anyway thats my opinion, by the way, I haven't read this bloke site because I can't be bothered waisting my time on morons.

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    I saw this website also a while ago and read it and thought it was funny. I decided to buy a Renault 19 instead of a Xantia but it was only because i was afraid if those electrics and i was was also told by someone that when the suspension goes the steering goes and all other things also. I am always worried about the suspension on citroens....I would like to buy an auto BX however..or even an automatic CX

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    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
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    Hi Danial,

    yeah, you've been speaking to poeple that have never worked on or owned a citroen (or have owned one and been ripped off at every oportunity because of the 'hydraulics' being bad ).

    Basicly 95% of citroens will be dead & gone before the hydraulics die. I bought an old 63 brake fluid ID19 that had been sitting under a tree for years. It didn't run and the hydraulics didn't work.

    I cleaned the brake fluid resevoir, changed the fluid and the car lifted & brakes worked. Cleaned the black sludge from the height correctors (being 40years old and no regular fluid changes had caused this). Then I've started driving it... No suspension problems, no brake problems.... etc...

    If you ever hear someone say how unreliable citroen suspensions are, especialy if they are a mechanic you'll know straight away there talking bullshit and know nothing about what they speak of evil evil

    BX's do have problems with the front strut seals going, but hey it's cheaper to fix that than to replace shockers all the time :p CX's don't really have any common problems other than idiots servicing (or not) servicing them

    seeya,
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    Hi Daniel,

    The BX19TRI Auto is not a bad car (ask Craig - he just traded his on the XM) - much better then the woefully geared BX16TRS. A reasonable one should be around the 4K mark, more for well kept ones. Look out for the state of the gearbox, as a neglected one will cost more than the car is worth to fix - it is a ZF.

    Unless you are a masochist with a fetish for interesting electrical gremlins steer clear of early CXs - they are lovely cars, but!! The sagas of C-Matics are too legion to recount.

    That said I know of people who have paid $500 for a car 3 years ago and not spent a penny, and it is still going strong.

    The later CX2500s are much better sorted - the ZF auto is very solid, and they go pretty well - not much can beat them as an open road point to point car. Just remember that it is a big car - long as a Holden Statesman, and not really a town car. Good autos fetch between $5-7K, more for the best.

    It is reaching the point now where CXs are getting rarer than Ds - people don't see the collectible value, and the complications of owning one put so many people off.

    Don't be put off by the hydraulics of a Citroen - that, if maintained properly - ie not neglected, is generally vey reliable - catastrophic failures are incredibly rare - you have to ignore something that is not right for quite a while to have that happen. I have had more brake problems with our family's 25 yr old 230 Benz than with any of my Citroens.

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    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
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    OK,ok,

    CX's don't have any common 'hydraulic' problems. 95% of problems you'll have with a CX is dodgy wiring, dodgy wiring, and bad wiring

    All in all very simple & easy to fix for a DIY!

    seeya,
    Shane L.
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    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


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    Sorry to bring this one back up.

    I noticed there is a new newsgroup on the dejanews service called free.autos.citroen (there's a Renault one now too).

    You'd think Citroen would take customer service more serious

    Taken from that newsgroup:
    Hello all you Citroen owners

    By now you will have probably heard about my site <a href="http://www.thefergs.freeserve.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.thefergs.freeserve.co.uk</a> and my problems with my C5.

    I would like to clarify things....

    I love the car - big , powerful and I think good looking
    The reliability I have experienced is BAD
    Citroen have not fixed my faults to my satisfaction
    My dealer has test driven - and passsed my car - when it had faulty steering and faulty suspension - not very good.
    If Citroen iron out the problems - then I will sing its praises.
    I still have faults - which the dealer says he can do nothing

    So now you all know how I feel about this car. If you have a C5 and its performing well - then great. I just want my car replaced.

    regards

    Graham Ferguson
    Hi Graham

    Stick to your guns - one of the girls that I work with has had a load
    of hassle with the brakes on her brand new Saxo siezing.

    She refused to drive the car on safety grounds, Citroen claimed that
    the car was safe, even though they couldn't explain the brake problem.

    Car now taken back by Citroen and full reimbursement made - she now
    has a Renault!

    Cheers

    Steve
    Whitley Bay - North East Coast of England
    I had problems with a Saxo and a bad dealer, I have had a few niggles with
    the Xsara and another bad dealer. They tend to lie and do as little work as
    possible. Why not keep booking the car in for repair work (ensuring you get
    a courtesy car) and refuse to give them their car keys back until they fix
    your car correctly. Ring the manager frequently, speak to him, threaten him
    with solicitors and contact Citroen UK. That should work in my experience.
    Refuse to take your car back when it has not been fixed correctly. If all
    else fails, make a poster with the cars faults and dealer problems and park
    your car outside with the poster. I have seen it done before. I guess that
    should make them work properly.

    Ben

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