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    Here's what a guy from Slovenia tows with his TZD, don't know how legal it would be out here though.





    Just posted this as there's been a couple of "towing" threads lately.

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    thats a massive van he is towing? The question of towing has always been interesting. I have always wondered what weights french cars will tow. Someone asked me one day if a C3 could tow a caravan but I had no idea I just thought it would have to be a small caravan if the C3 was an auto I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan S
    Here's what a guy from Slovenia tows with his TZD, don't know how legal it would be out here though.





    Just posted this as there's been a couple of "towing" threads lately.


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    Grab the 'van spec's from him. I'm putting $$$$ that 'van weighs less than 800kgs .... Our caravans out here are massivly heavy built things with chassis.

    The caravans in the UK are incredibly light weight things too... The sheer size of it would be a worry, you would think the wind would blow it around being so light and big

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    I recall seeing a website a couple of years ago where some of those crazy Danes use their diesel BXs to tow their small yachts from the marina to home for winter. These are the type of yachts that have a permanent keel attached, so they must weigh a bit!
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    European 'vans are fairly lightweight - I tow a 1200KG one with my Xantia and have moved it with the TZD BX before now. The Xantia however was more than capable of towing the BX Tizzy Dee and big fooooook orf trailer back from its last resting place some 60 odd miles away.

    Its the suspension that makes towing a doddle.
    Anyway - hello to you all down here - still havent found the roo with the fag....

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    If you cast your mind back to the mid 1980's, Citroen themselves did some crazy stunts with tow cars!
    They got one of those huge aluminium "airflow" american caravans, and hooked it up to a BX, to show what a good tow car the BX was. I remember seeing these brochures while I worked in a citroen main dealer.
    Of course, I doubt very much if it would be legal to actually take it on the road like that!
    Mind you, during the glastonbury festival back in the summer, I saw a caravan that size, being towed by a Vauxhall corsa (holden barina) which is very definately illegal!!! john s
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    Could my CX tow another CX on a trailer, would it wreck my car or would it just be totally illegal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy N
    Could my CX tow another CX on a trailer, would it wreck my car or would it just be totally illegal?
    Highly illegal... Most rental trailers weigh in excess of 800kgs .... I've done it many times without problems. Infact it tows it quite well. ... But certainly I wouldn't tow that sort of weight for any great distance. Have you ever towed a big trailer before ... Make that a big HEAVY trailer

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    I know this is a Citroen thread, but I thought this appropriate..

    Isnt one of the laws in Victoria, that the car + trailer combo cant weigh more than the towing vehicle?

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    Hi Vivid,

    that must have taken some moving back and forward on the trailer of the towed car so the back suspension didn't get flattened out on the R16.

    The Cit's are easier, you just roll the car as far forward as far as you can and tie it down. The towcar then just effortlessly hoists the back suspension up and level. It doesn't even look slightly overloaded ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivid
    I know this is a Citroen thread, but I thought this appropriate..

    Isnt one of the laws in Victoria, that the car + trailer combo cant weigh more than the towing vehicle?

    David.
    Certainly the case in the UK - however the police over here use the manufacturers towing limits as their guide - so the Xant is rated (UK) at 1200kgs towing weight - the 110HDi is rated at 1300kgs

    I think the BX and trailer came in at nearer 1700Kgs all told - still did it effortlessly though

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    Hi Vivid,

    that must have taken some moving back and forward on the trailer of the towed car so the back suspension didn't get flattened out on the R16.
    Incidently Shane, I have no idea who's 16(s) those above are, I found it somewhere. Just incase you thought it was me.. I did however tow a 16 (as shown above) on a simular trailer with a Fuego.

    The 16 does bottom out onto its bump stops, thats what the levers to tilt the headlights are for.

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    I have towed a DS19 and tandem trailer behind a DS23 Safari for around 200k's, including a big hill in the middle, it managed it both with ease. The combined weight of the car and trailer would have been around 2 tonnes.

    I also used my DS23 saloon to tow a tandem hire trailer with a traction on it, again no probs, this was in melbourne so glad no cops saw it

    The DS and CX are superb tow cars, better than a w@nk tank,

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    Quote Originally Posted by petermelb

    The DS and CX are superb tow cars, better than a w@nk tank,

    I'd rate the CX C-matic as possibly the best tow car ever built.
    With mine I towed a loaded 2 ton trailer fully loaded (until the tyres scraped on the guard tops, a 16 foot half cabin and a 16 foot caravan.
    If you ever want to upset the t@nker set, load and unload a fair sized boat at a steep ramp. Pull up, untie, release ratchet on winch. Jack up suspension when boat is half off and hang onto anchor rope. Boat launched.
    On return, reverse down until all the trailer is in the water. Wind the front onto first part of trailer to about the second roller. Collapse suspension, guide boat whilst winch operator winds it on. Start car, reset suspension, clear ramp, reattach clamps and ties and go home.
    Wave to local Toy Land Bruiser or Nearsam Potholer as he stands there with mouth open after he's just been giving his missus a burst about how they needed a truck to put the tinny in & out of the water.
    Front wheel drive and self levelling suspension also means I never spin wheels when taking off out of ramps due to the driving wheels being on the dry grippy part of the ramp.



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    And keep a chock behind a wheel..you can't trust the handbrake on the buggers......what you thought was on isn't always adequate when the extra load of the boat was added...but torque converters are great for pulling away..and the FWD never a problem....but without a proper PARK pawl there is little to trust.

    I wonder how effective these new electric parking brakes are..anyone know how they function ?

    Many moons ago ( about 1973 ) in north Qld a DS ( a light gold colour with brown leather ) got loose at the Bingil Bay Motel and slid down an 8 metre embankment to the road below....car had made its maiden voyage from the south and the wreck was shipped back by train...being a hydraulic it lost pressure and knocked itself out of gear ( ? ) and the driver hadn't applied the park brake adequately... a real shame. The DS landed on a rear corner and distorted the caisson enough to pop the roof at the front as well as the rear.

    I also had a GS convertisseur in the early 80s ( beige..they're always faster I read )...the torque converter was a lovely compromise....best of both worlds.

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