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    Default A proper car factory!

    I thought you guys might like to see how things used to be, when they still made real CitroŽns!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiffy1071
    I thought you guys might like to see how things used to be, when they still made real CitroŽns!!!
    Interesting to note that the standard position of CXs hasn't changed much since then
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    Gee's is that what my car would look like with decent paint

    I see no factory workers there, you need to see the Traction assembly line. The CX in comparison is quite automated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    I see no factory workers there, you need to see the Traction assembly line. The CX in comparison is quite automated.
    They were all probably off to lunch.

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    Citroen Car Club of NSW collated a series of 9 videos about 8 years ago; there is some great footage of CX and GS production lines, as well as promo flicks with 70's dudes driving them about.

    Still pull them out from time to time.
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    Now there's something I hadn't noticed before in the picture.
    I thought only the Prestige or other high spec cars GTi, turbo, and DTR had leather interior (even then, it was only an option). But the red car at the front of this pic, only has steel wheels, so I wionder what it is?
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    wouldn't it be awesome to drive one of those off the line today!
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    Great picture there I can even see a silver visa in the background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiffy1071
    Now there's something I hadn't noticed before in the picture.
    I thought only the Prestige or other high spec cars GTi, turbo, and DTR had leather interior (even then, it was only an option). But the red car at the front of this pic, only has steel wheels, so I wionder what it is?
    john s
    Perhaps they all had steel wheels in the factory to be replaced by alloys later? Or perhaps its a low spec model with vinal seats? I have heard that for the french market there were CX's made for company reps well below the super/Athena spec level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdabel
    ...a low spec model with vinal seats? ...
    Eek! imagine vinyl seats on a long drive in hot Aussie weather!
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    Well, the cars seen on the production line, are series 2 cars. The lowest spec of the series 2, was the 20RE. Even this car had cloth seats!

    The GTi, the turbo, and DTR, were offered with leather as an option, but the leather was only black.

    Only the prestige, had different colour leather black, brown, cream, beige, and dark red (i didn't know about that one until 3 weeks ago, only 2 ever made!!!)

    Now the trouble with that, is the car in the pic can't be a prestige, as it isn't long enough. Hmmm john s
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    The first car is LHD so I am guessing euro spec. Sure I have read that there were different trims for different markets. Need the train spotting brigade here.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdabel
    The first car is LHD so I am guessing euro spec. Sure I have read that there were different trims for different markets. Need the train spotting brigade here.....

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    The other thing about the picture is that the first CX has not yet had it's front bar and turning lights fitted, but the second has ...

    Are they going backwards? Go figure. Maybe they really were out to lunch ...

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    I would say it's there 'repair' section for cars that have faults and have been moved away from the production line.... The reason is there is other types of cars in the background ... Or maybe it's somewhere that assembles CDK kits

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    I would say that at that part of the line the cars are moving backwards - note the mirrors above the car - so the workers can see what is coming to them, not what has left.

    If they were moving backwards and there were front end bits being fitted then the workers would move behind the car reducing the risk of being knocked over by the vehicle.

    This is a theory which belongs to me and is mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UFO
    I would say that at that part of the line the cars are moving backwards - note the mirrors above the car - so the workers can see what is coming to them, not what has left.

    If they were moving backwards and there were front end bits being fitted then the workers would move behind the car reducing the risk of being knocked over by the vehicle.

    This is a theory which belongs to me and is mine.

    Makes complete sense to me .... Only wouldn't it be robots that fit all those parts

    They would then have the car moving in the forward direction to fit the rear bumper for the same reasons ??

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    Funny how I had just assumed that the cars were moving forwards. Craig is right that there is no reason to assume this.....watch out DeBono

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    (Tragically) I got out the video tonight and watched it. At various times the car moves forwards or backwards and sometimes sideways through the factory. They did not show the crucial part as indicated in the original photo, but it is likely that the car was moving backwards on the line at the time. The voice over was a bit weirdo 70s - and it would have been a fairly direct translation from French too.

    (And no, I do not have the facilities or time to make copies, burn to DVD, upload to the net, bring about world peace etc etc. So please don't ask. )
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    backwards, forwards, hmmm ...

    either way, the first car does not have a front bar and turning lights, the second car does have front bar and turning lights ... and the third car does not (and has its bonnet up).

    not the tidiest assembly line about ...

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    Ok.............

    This could be a very very wrong idea but anyways - maybe the car does not have a front bumper because the intercooler must be installed before the bumper is put on?

    Could work being a series two - they were released with TD motors?

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    That would depend on when the photo was taken. When the series 2 was first out in july 1985 (my car, and shanes) turbo petrol, and turbo diesel did not have intercoolers. They came along in 1987 and had "TURBO 2" badging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smiffy1071
    That would depend on when the photo was taken. When the series 2 was first out in july 1985 (my car, and shanes) turbo petrol, and turbo diesel did not have intercoolers. They came along in 1987 and had "TURBO 2" badging.
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    Hmm good point!

    In the background I noticed an unbuilt Visa - were they still in production in 1987?

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    The VISA I think finished in 1987, being replaced by the AX (introduced 1986).
    When I worked at the Citroen dealer in late 1987, we still had 4 VISA cars in stock, 3 diesels, and a GTi!! (very rare indeed, there are only 35 of these in england now) These must have been among the last ones made. john s
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    I'd guess the red CX is either a DTR Turbo or a GTi Auto. I've have seen 1 DTR Turbo with the same fawn leather about a year ago on Ebay in the Scotland area. But this was the only one. GTi Autos have the same type of leather seats in fawn and black (-mostly black).

    It wouldn't be a 20 - too low spec of a car to have leather.
    Nor a 22 TRS - for the same reasons.
    Wrong type of seats to be a GTi Turbo.
    Rear doors are too short and the roofline is too low to be a Prestige.

    So that leaves the DTR or standard GTi.

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    P.S. Where's the photo from ? - I'm sure I've seen it somewhere before.

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