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    Default Yet another broken window mechanism!

    Dad's C5 went back to the dealer today as the window mechanism broke (fortunately under warranty).

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    This is an absolute joke, that's two Xsara's that have each had their mechanism break and now the C5!

    Cost us $600 each time the car wasn't under warranty. An absolute joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ-Studd
    Dad's C5 went back to the dealer today as the window mechanism broke (fortunately under warranty).

    This is an absolute joke, that's two Xsara's that have each had their mechanism break and now the C5!

    Cost us $600 each time the car wasn't under warranty. An absolute joke.

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    Which window on the C5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance
    Which window on the C5?

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    The rear passenger side.
    Fortunately the C5 is being fixed under warranty, but not so much luck for the 2 Xsara's that have had the same, seemingly common, problem.

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    If that's the only thing that goes wrong, thats OK....
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    When you say "winder" which part breaks? I presume it's a power window.
    I'm trying to get me head around what I know most Cits have inside a door to raise and lower a window being worth $600...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan S
    When you say "winder" which part breaks? I presume it's a power window.
    I'm trying to get me head around what I know most Cits have inside a door to raise and lower a window being worth $600...
    Yup, the power window. It's the entire motor mechanism, has to be replaced as one part (expensive. hmm.). Works out at about $600 with the fitting.
    The last time it happened on the Xsara, the cable basically got chewed up in the motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ-Studd
    The rear passenger side.
    Fortunately the C5 is being fixed under warranty, but not so much luck for the 2 Xsara's that have had the same, seemingly common, problem.

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    Snap!

    Mine left the glass "floating" in the door channel. Glass could be pushed down by hand.
    Citroen dealer "fixed it" .
    Two weeks later there was a loud metal to metal bang[when closing the windows from the half inch gap position] as it failed again.
    This time they replaced parts under warranty and it has been OK ever since.
    Problem is Citroen dealer drives your car from their sales centre to the repair shop and you don't get to talk to the mechanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ-Studd
    Yup, the power window. It's the entire motor mechanism, has to be replaced as one part (expensive. hmm.). Works out at about $600 with the fitting.
    The last time it happened on the Xsara, the cable basically got chewed up in the motor.

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    I think I paid around $380-$410 from Citromet and fitted it myself......still a bit too expensive.

    Same thing happened to mine, the wire was mangled in the motor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xsara VTR
    I think I paid around $380-$410 from Citromet and fitted it myself......still a bit too expensive.

    Same thing happened to mine, the wire was mangled in the motor

    Please elaborate - I assume that there are wires from a plug to the motor.
    Couldn't the wire be cut and spliced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance
    Please elaborate - I assume that there are wires from a plug to the motor.
    Couldn't the wire be cut and spliced?

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    I tried doings that, no chance.

    When I put the new one in, all the wires were tight and at the right length....so I doubt the wires can be fixed....
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    Er, so cut the old wire, insert a length of new wire and solder at both ends... hell, I'll do if for you. Only $599

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris
    Er, so cut the old wire, insert a length of new wire and solder at both ends... hell, I'll do if for you. Only $599

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    ...............cover in heatshrink and be sure to saddle and tie the wires out of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris
    Er, so cut the old wire, insert a length of new wire and solder at both ends... hell, I'll do if for you. Only $599

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    have you seen the regulator setup?? if so fair enough but then length of the wires determine the heights of the two clips holding the glass, how much they go up and down, also if you can find the clip that joins onto the wire and clips onto the glass holder, let me know..

    the wheel on my motor was also pretty damaged and couldnt hold the wires in place
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    It's happened to mine (the Xsara) as well, but the dealer repaired it under warranty.
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    Ah, I think the things that are breaking are the wire cables that run from the motor and activate the up and down motion of the glass. NOT the electrical supply cables.

    IIRC, a similar problem happens on S1 XMs as the nylon pulley wheel breaks or perishes.
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    Yeah, happened on our Xantia's drivers window after about 80K/8 years. $700
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    Quote Originally Posted by UFO
    Ah, I think the things that are breaking are the wire cables that run from the motor and activate the up and down motion of the glass. NOT the electrical supply cables.

    IIRC, a similar problem happens on S1 XMs as the nylon pulley wheel breaks or perishes.
    Oh and aren't they fun to play with

    Yes, I concur that I think we are talking about the drive cables (which of course are made of wire) not electrical wires.
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    bloody hell.... for 6-800bux ... I'd put a bloody block of wood under the window and leave it in the permanantly closed position ... That's bloody rediculous, if my Xantia does that I'll burn the bloody thing before I pay out those sort of $$$$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    bloody hell.... for 6-800bux ... I'd put a bloody block of wood under the window and leave it in the permanantly closed position ... That's bloody rediculous, if my Xantia does that I'll burn the bloody thing before I pay out those sort of $$$$$.

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    To be fair, as it stuffed up in the closed position, the garage did suggest doing nothing was a valid option, but my wife's work carpark has an access card and winding down the manual rear window and reaching around was driving her mad. The things we do for love.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie
    To be fair, as it stuffed up in the closed position, the garage did suggest doing nothing was a valid option, but my wife's work carpark has an access card and winding down the manual rear window and reaching around was driving her mad. The things we do for love.....
    Of course you could give your wife the Subaru to drive and take the Xantia yourself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by UFO
    Of course you could give your wife the Subaru to drive and take the Xantia yourself...
    Apparently it 'only a Subaru'.

    (D+XM - nice choice of wheels BTW Craig.)
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