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    Hi Guys,

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    just went in to pick up the 2 x 20litre drums of LHM that I'd
    ordered in. While
    I was there I thought I'd grab some brake fluid for my old ID.
    I asked the
    attendant why was brake fluid so bloody expensive everywhere
    ($43 for 4litres).
    He looked up his price list, and said, I'll just run it through
    the book and
    it'll cost you $28. Dunno about you but running it through the
    book must mean
    they treat you like a commercial customer. At that price I got
    to 2 bottles of
    brake fluid.

    He grabbed the LHM for me "That'll be $218.60 mate". "What the
    $%)(*#$
    #)$*)@#($* #@$)(*%*#@), says me". I only bought some two months
    ago and it was
    $113 dollars for 20litres, how the hell can they justify more
    than DOUBLING the
    price in two months. As soon as it's bussiness hours tomorow
    I'm going to on
    the phone to BP to give them a piece of my mind. Twice the
    bloody price, I told
    them they could keep it in no uncertain terms....

    Anyone else in Australia having problems like this??

    thanks
    Shane L
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    '78 GS1220 pallas
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    Shane,

    Do us all a favour & don't stuff around. Lodge a complaint straight away with the ACCC. They are on the web & this is the sort of thing they are supposed to be getting paid to stop. I had a go at the oil companies a while back & they do follow them through although in my case it was more complicated than this hence it wasn't quite as simple as this should be.

    http://www.accc.gov.au/


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    Here's my e-mail to BP that I sent tonight - gee; I do hope I don't hurt their feelings

    Alan S


    Some time ago I submitted an enquiry as to why your local outlet here in Hervey Bay was always the dearest with petrol & always the first to increase prices. It was a genuine enquiry and one I felt of general community interest.
    In the accepted arrogant style of your company you did not respond in the same way as I expect you will not respond to this enquiry.
    I note that in the notice above you specify that you prefer to handle customer enquiries regarding prices by telephone; given the ethics of oil companies, I can understand the reason why you would not want to commit yourself in print; after all "your word against mine" and "credibility of witnesses" are always the allies of those with something to hide aren't they?
    I have just enjoyed a good laugh whilst looking at your company's submission to the ACCC where you speak of "dodgy fuel." The reason I can see the funny side to this is that the only time I ever really had problems with dodgy fuel was after I had filled up at one of your BP service stations. My car would not run at slow speed in fact only the main jet could function and as a result I had to get the RACQ guy to get me out of trouble at around 5.30am one morning and only after a filter had been fitted, a lot of fuel purged from the tank and a refill using another brand of fuel could I continue my journey to fulfill a medical appointment.
    Your submission seems to present a case of oil companies being "hard done by" and victims of public anger due to the fact that they are high profile & uses all sorts of excuses as to why you are really the good guys - you wear white hats and ride white horses - you are really pure as the driven snow!!
    Don't really know how to tell you this but the fact is you really are a pack of self centred money grabbing 'ssholes of the highest order!!
    Apart from lacing petrol with anything that might burn (remember years ago?? "Use BP - It contains Methanol" ?) your well reported standover tactics on service station proprietors and some of your latest moves on trying to justify ripping off Australian Motorists because you feel hard done by because the Australian Motoring public won't cop the crap you've imposed & got away with on overseas apathetic motorists.
    Your latest blatant rip off to double the price of LHM because you think you've got a monopoly or near enough I am endeavouring to get also to blow up in your face. I have spoken to an independant blender & am hopeful of getting a substitute as has happened overseas to produce & supply at a reasonable price. Hopefully I will have an answer within the next few days which will be published worldwide & definitely Australia wide on the 'net, at which time I would suggest that you can use your imagination as to where every Citroen owner in Australia would suggest you stick your overpriced product.
    I will NEVER use ANY BP product again and as I am on a worldwide list with Citroen owners this message to boycott BP through their greedy policies, will be sent worldwide.
    We abhor blatant rip offs because as owners of something a bit out of the ordinary, we are constant targets for it hence are more alert to it than say a Ford or Holden owner. However when put into perspective (the BX sond in excess of 2.5 million units) perhaps then your self centred business practices might realise how much you greed will cost you.
    Please don't insult my intelligence by telling me about the middle east crises and the current price of West Texas Crude - Tonight it was at about US$27 a barrel so the movements have not been enough to justify a 100% price rise.
    Can you explain why? Will you explain why? Or will you just simply follow the normal arrogant attitude & simply ignore this. If so you do it at your own peril as you are being reported to the ACCC for exploitation and price collusion. No doubt you'll already have your defence mapped out and no doubt you'll be riding your white horse & wearing your white hat; your company really is a joke isn't it?



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    Hey Alan,
    I think your tone might have been a little subtle, I doubt that you've hurt their feelings. Good onya... I'm working on mine, don't think I'll be as eloquent

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    Hi Alan,

    yer, well I asked a similar question, maybe not in as many words. I've also shot a mail off to the ACCC. Though I doubt they'll take the slightest notice of it. If anything it makes us feel a little better. I not the sort to just stand back and let them get away with anything they want.

    Just rang the guy that buys LHM for the club, he's bought several drums in the last couple of months. Only problem?? He DOESNT SEE THE INVOICE!!! BP take the money straight from the clubs bank account. He was extremely thankful I'd rang to say the least. They wouldn't have realised until the tried to reconcil the bank accounts at the end of year. Club price for LHM will probably have to jump from $40 for 5litres to $60(+) for 5litres.

    starting not to be so pissed off now, but that doesn't mean I intend to back off

    By the way Kirk was telling me the reason there has always been 2 suppliers for LHM is the Air Forces Mirage jets use LHM in there hydraulics. Guess who's airforce must have recently sold these jets off....

    seeya,
    Shane L.
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    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

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    Hi all,

    Well here is a response I got from an overseas bulletin board regarding the price in Australia as compared to overseas.
    Feel free to use it in your contacts with BP or ACCC.
    It really shows what a rip off these [email protected][email protected]%(!s are trying to pull.


    Hi Alans,
    Sorry to rub salt in but I have just bought 30 litres for £15 made by GB lubricants UK and nearly choked on my butty when I saw Oz price.

    Ray

    BP as part of their argument to me & in a submission to ACCC use a statistic that we have the 4th lowest (out of 30 countries) petrol price. What that has to do with it I don't know apart from saying they think that we should cop their rip offs sweet like everybody else does As I have said before, I believe this is one way they are trying to increase their profits; at the expense of specialised products to minority motoring groups.

    Alan S


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    Well here's the reply I got from them. Not to hopeful, but they have actualy replied... I've just found Agip sells LHM. Don't get to excited yet though as I haven't checked the price.

    ----------------------------------------------------

    Subject:
    RE: LHM fluid price.
    Date:
    Tue, 25 Sep 2001 17:25:09 +1000
    From:
    "Fox, Krysta A" <[email protected]>
    To:
    "'Shane'" <[email protected]>


    hi Shane

    This is not my area of expertise. It does seem unusual, although
    I wonder if
    it's more a case of the price being excessively low (and
    forgotten about)
    for some time and having recently been adjusted, rather than the
    price
    doubling for no reason. I must stress that my previous statement
    is complete
    speculation on my part.

    I have passed your query on to a colleague who will reply to you
    shortly. He
    is currently investigating.

    Seeing as though you got my email address through a friend (?)
    then let me
    say it would have been nice to have the opportunity to reply to
    you before
    you took your query further. Not that I have a problem with you
    doing that -
    it is your democratic right as a consumer!

    ps. love the way Citroen's suspension works - very cool, and
    such a
    comfortable ride

    Regards

    Krysta Fox
    Retail Pricing Manager - WA
    Ph: (03) 9268 3789
    Fax: (03) 9268 3300
    Email: [email protected]

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Shane [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2001 10:05 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: LHM fluid price.


    Hi,

    I've got your email address from a friend. Recently I submitted
    a question
    at
    the BP site about the price of LHM. It's a fluid specialy
    designed for the
    suspension/brakes/steering on Citroen cars (I've also heard it
    used in
    Mirage
    jets hydraulics).

    I regualy buy 20litre drums of this from the local 'Truckstop"
    BP petrol
    station
    in Ballarat Victoria. Anway last week I ordered in another
    2x20litre drums
    only
    to find the price has increased from the $113.32 to $218.60 (inc
    GST/charges/tax's). I find it ludicrous that the price can be
    increased by
    nearly 100% in the last couple of weeks. Could you please
    explain to me how
    this is possible given the current price of oil per barrel. It
    hasn't risen
    anything like that amount.

    Please note: I've been dealing with this petrol station in
    Ballarat for
    years
    and have never had a problem. I had them triple check the price
    for me.
    It's
    definatly gone up by nearly 100% they apoligesed to me saying
    it's out of
    there
    hands, and they only make $16 out of each drum of LHM sold.

    I've already sent a mail off to the ACCC, and posted this to
    many Citroen
    boards
    & newgroups not only throughout Australia, but thoughout the
    world. Please
    tell
    me how you can justify the price increase?

    regards
    Shane Leviston


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    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

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    Apparently these bastartds aren't taking us too seriously
    Well things are about to change; here is a letter I got from Canberra this afternoon.


    "Crean, Simon (MP)" <[email protected]>
    To: "'Alan S'" <[email protected]>
    Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:20:14 +1000

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Dear Alan,
    Thank you very much for you letter.

    The issue you mention is of course a very specialised one, and one that
    until now I have not been familiar with.

    I have thus forwarded your letter to Labor's Transport spokesman Martin
    Ferguson, and Resource spokesman Martyn Evans.

    Yours sincerely,

    Simon Crean

    Now Mr unpronounceable name from BP - You were saying ------

    Alan S


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