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    Hi Guys,

    if your interested I've knocked up a couple of pages on costs/time that goes into keeping these cars running. pretty scarey stuff

    BX service & costs

    CX service & costs

    seeya,
    Shane L.

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    100,000kms for $2.5k on the BX? Couldn't complain about that....

    I'd love to tabulate something like that for my old 740 turbo - would have read something like 25,000kms for $5k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    Hi Guys,

    if your interested I've knocked up a couple of pages on costs/time that goes into keeping these cars running. pretty scarey stuff

    BX service & costs

    CX service & costs

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    Hey, thanks for that Shane, an interesting read. The costs really add up don't they. Did you ever determine the cause of the power loss??
    Cheers...George.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    Hi Guys,

    if your interested I've knocked up a couple of pages on costs/time that goes into keeping these cars running. pretty scarey stuff

    BX service & costs

    CX service & costs

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    Wot; no "Major Service to ECU" for $500 a pop?

    Howdoyadoit?????????????


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    I think your costs for the BX look pretty reasonable. You have travelled alot of kilometres in a fairly short time.
    I have my BX TZD Turbo, a Mazda MX5 and Rover SD1 3500 V8. The last few months I always seem to be spending money on something for one of them. But none of them will depreciate much more now if I keep them in good condition. Sometimes I think, bugger it, I will sell all three and buy one newer car that I really like and only have one lot of insurance, safety checks, and maintenance. An S-Type Jaguar quite appeals to me but then I look at them for about $40,000 NZ, for a year 2000 model done about 50,000 k's and I know that in two years time they will be about $20,000. And I think I could not do much work on it myself so I would be locked into the Jag dealer for expensive serviving. None of the newer Cit's really appeal but a Pug 406 HDI looks nice and they do drive nicely.
    I have had my BX for 7 months and only done 6000 km's. I have changed oil and filter once, had an octopus leak fixed (cost $350) and the wiper spindle is loose and needs something done to it soon.
    It seems that you either lose it on depreciation or maintenance so you may as well just drive what you like to drive (and can afford of course).

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    Quote Originally Posted by George 1/8th
    Hey, thanks for that Shane, an interesting read. The costs really add up don't they. Did you ever determine the cause of the power loss??
    Cheers...George.
    Hi George,

    yep, dodgy connectors to the knock sensor. If the computer can't see the knock sensor it retards the ignition by a whole 10degrees Any wonder if felt flat !!

    Keep in mind with the CX turbo I purchased it knowing it needed about $2,000 spending on it to bring upto scratch. ie:

    --4 new tires
    --new roof lining
    --new rear arm bearings
    --new front ball joints & bushes
    --new engine mounts
    --bumpers fixed

    The price I paid for the car took into account the $$$ it would need spending on it.

    Alan, show me who has a gueniune Bosch 'tester' and is also and electronics engineer and has access to the un-available electronic parts of the ECU's and I'll consider a 'major injection service'

    seeya,
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    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
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    I can give you the names of a couple in Sydney who seem to consistently charge for doing them.....you don't think they......ahh, they wouldn't be???....surely, not these fellas; they seem so genuine .....


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    Shane, $2,000 for the BX does at first glance seem expensive, but you've had it 4 years and driven 90,000k, or $500 per year and 2.2c per k on maintenece.

    A friend who bought a new Foulcan 4 years ago is probably looking at around $15,000 in depreciation alone, and has just spent over $400 on the brakes, plus other dealer servicing costs.

    Comparing thesae figures the BX looks extremely cheap, howver if you added in your time at say $60 per hour the picture might look somewhat different.

    Still proves you can have great french motoring and not break the bank, good on ya Shane


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    Shane,

    This is a great point of reference for those that have...

    a) The ability
    b) The time
    c) The space
    d) The tools

    To do their own maintence but this is surely the minority... most of us in general and apart from routine maintenace (oil / filters / plugs) will have to $$$$ when something goes wrong...

    Regardless of how much "value" we get... or how honest our repariers may be a true cost summary would have to factor this in....

    The other interesting point is that I have seen a number of Citroens recently that have been maintained by so called "enthusiasts" and "home experts" some of who are very quick to criticise the very few loyal professional citroen specialists we have in Sydney (and I'm talking Sydney now Al and Shane!!!) that are a dogs breakfast.... incorrect spheres being the most obvious... CX spheres on a GS and GS spheres on a Xantia are two examples that spring to mind... !!!

    Citroen ownership will always be 80% enjoyment and 20% pain.... it's when the ballance shifts that the times comes to call it quits... or simply stop counting!!!!
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    BX TRI Hatch
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    Hi Guys,

    I've just been changing the gearbox oil in the Xantia and was looking through the cars 'little black book' With all the talk of reliability (or lack there of) and costs I thought I'd add the Xantia costs here.

    We purchased the car just before Ang had a baby, so it's done very few km's as compared to the BX.

    Purchased Jan 04 @ 121,000... At that time I was always hugely unimpressed with Xantia ride.

    Feb '04
    --123,000 ...
    engine oil --$25 (Helix 15/50 from Big W)
    oil filter --$15
    Gearbox oil Dexron III --$ 20
    Cambelt --$40 (approx)

    Total service : $100 approx

    March '04
    --Spheres tested and gassed.
    Regassed @ $35 bux each. Both rears (down to 50%), main accumulator & rear brake accumulator regassed.
    DEAD Rear hydractive sphere. (replaced for $50bux)
    other spheres tested ok.

    Total Service : $200approx

    April '04

    Radiator fans have started on high speed and will not turn off. Cleaned contacts around Bitron sender. The fans are working correctly again (though I don't think I fixed them, most likely they have 'fixed themselves').

    May '04
    Interior light has come on permantly. Unable to find reason and have removed the globes from the interior lights (later they fixed themselves).

    June '04
    130,600kms
    engine oil --$25 (Helix 15/50 from Big W)
    oil filter --$15
    Gearbox oil Dexron III --$ 20
    created/made some strut retaining brackets for front struts.
    greased front strut slides

    Total service : $60 approx

    Feb '05
    135,000
    New accessories belt

    March 05
    New Toyo 205/50 15" tyres fitted under nose $128each

    Total Service : $250

    April '05
    engine oil --$25 (Helix 15/50 from Big W)
    oil filter --$15
    Gearbox oil Dexron III --$ 20
    Changed coolant $20

    Total service : $80

    Sept '05
    142,000kms
    New brake pads front
    New spark plugs fitted
    *Note: Disks wearing poorly and will need to be changed next pad change

    Rattle in the back of car when cornering. Found rear exhaust mount moves on it bush allowing exhaust to touch bumper mounting bracket.


    Total service : $100bux (pads)

    Sept '05
    Fixed cruise control. Dirty contact *inside* the brake pedal was preventing cruise engaging

    Oct '05
    143,000
    Dexron III is the WRONG gearbox oil for this gearbox ... First change to flush Dexron III out of the gearbox. Transmax M (Dexron IID equivelant)
    LHM leak around reseviour found to be level sensor rotating on it's seal then leaking. Re-routed sensor wires so they were no longer under tension.

    Front is quite firm:
    Tested front spheres:

    Front Left 45bar (spec 45bar)
    Front Right 16bar (spec 45bar) Note: leaking gas ie: dead.
    front H/A sphere 70bar (spec 75bar)
    main accumlator 38bar (spec 62)

    Main accumulator needs regass, front right h/a sphere needs replacement.


    So it hasn't been the cheapest car to run and has a couple of niggles, but is far from what I'd call unreliable.

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    'Cit' homepage:
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    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

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