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    Well here she is The towel on the seat is for the glass still there from the broken window. The seats are in vgood condition.

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    Hey Cruiserman,

    do you have any close up piccies of the side strips. Is it a Pallas ?? I should have the strips you need, though they are extremely soft once removed from the panels, so you would have the same problem getting them there as the window glass.

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    Some more pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    Hey Cruiserman,

    do you have any close up piccies of the side strips. Is it a Pallas ?? I should have the strips you need, though they are extremely soft once removed from the panels, so you would have the same problem getting them there as the window glass.

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    No it is a Super. Ray will be coming back from Tassie Friday Week and will transport anything that will help get her on the road again. The strips are black rubber with stainless strip in the middle. Ill send you a picture of them today. The old girl doesnt look too bad for a freebie.
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    Righto,

    now we just gotta arrange to get the parts to Melbourne for Ray to pick up.

    So you need:

    --drivers window
    --I'll need a pickie of the side strips, my parts cars are 'pallas', yours may be a personal import being a super
    --drivers side mirror
    --Possibly steering wheel You have an exceptionally good steering wheel there (by CX standards) however it appears to be a way to small daravi steering wheel. The manual steered cars have bigger steering wheels to give you better leverage.

    Pallas and super is just the trim level. It really means bugger all, pallas just means it has shiny sill guards (for rust to develop behind) big cheesy hubcaps and different door strips.

    Yep, that's one hell of a solid looking car. Most certainly it'll be easy to tidy up & drive. It's actually better than most CX2400 pallas's that I've seen in recent times.

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    Help I hope there isnt a bigger steering wheel this one is off a bus I think, I can only just get my 6'2" frame into the car with the seats right back, have to slide one leg carefully under the water wheel Ill give Ray a call and work something out. Any suggestions for the door and sill panel
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruiserman
    Help I hope there isnt a bigger steering wheel this one is off a bus I think, I can only just get my 6'2" frame into the car with the seats right back, have to slide one leg carefully under the water wheel Ill give Ray a call and work something out. Any suggestions for the door and sill panel
    Hmm,

    bugger, I've never seen door strips like those one before. All the trims I have aren't even close, but I will double check anyway.

    No worries with the steering wheel, it does sound like you have the big one I'll send you a pallas badge to put in the steering wheel boss (it should have a 'super' badge for there, but I don't have any).

    I'm glad these CX's are going to have some parts used off them. The wing mirrors and other minor bits 'n' peices aren't usable on the later cars.

    Any other specific CX2200 bits you need

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    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

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    Ash Tray, the two missing warning light covers, from the dash, door trims probably doesnt matter if they arnt the same, I can just replace the whole lot as there are only 1/2 of them left, petrol cap. Some tosser over the last few nights took the ash try, rearview mirror from inside (I put a 505 one on), the petrol cap and the trims. Probably must have been a cit owner as the parts would be pretty much car specific.

    Thanks for your help.
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    Yep,

    I should have most of them.

    The rust, that's a simple one, get your angle grinder/shears/nibbler out, cut the rust out, grab a pair of tin snips, cut a new fresh bit of metal out, bend it using some pliers/round pipe/hammers until it fits in the hole you cut and run a beed of weld around it.

    If you did the cutting/shaping I'd be happy to MIG the metal in (but I'm a little far away ). There's a CX owner nearby that's had a CX2400 4spd sitting in his yard for years unused as it needs arm bearings and very little rust cut out. He couldn't get the arm bolts out so it's sat for years (the specialist he was taking it to was ripping him off bigtime), so he's now got heaps of enthusiasm to get it back on the road as I've said I'll help him with the stuff that he can't do (as most of it is a matter of "been there & done that ..." already. Anything is easy once you have figured out how to do it the first time). In his case you need to weld a dirty bloody huge bolt to the seized bolt and use it as a press to pull from.

    If there's one thing for certain there is a lot of experiance with these cars here between me & Alan (who I'm sure you will be communicating with offlist).

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    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

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    Shane the manual refers to a pneumatic oil gauge. There is one, though I dont really know what it does, if it is likely to work and whether it is of any use if it does work
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    Yep,

    that's it next to the little cubbyhole to the lower right of the steering wheel. If you need a laugh read the Haynes book of fairytales on how to get it working. Basically you need to pull the guage out, fill it with LHM, and the level in the guage window will change depending on the level of oil in the sump. It probably works quite well, however I've never seen one working. Why

    Well you see the steps involved according to Haynes are:

    --remove small glove compartment
    --Fill will fluid

    What they forget to mention is to 'remove the small globe compartment' you actually have to dismantle all of the dash, the center console and probably remove the seats. It is a MASSIVE job. May I suggest simply pulling the dipstick out is much more reliable and a hell of a lot easier

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    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

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    Thanks I will continue to ignore it then, I noticed it this morning and the owner previous took some time explaining the car to me but did not mention the guage.

    As for Ray, back in the days before the internet people used to talk on the phone. I thought that would work.
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    Shane if I should start a collection and get a rusty Daravi steer car is it possible to retrofit or too much trouble to worry about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruiserman
    Shane the manual refers to a pneumatic oil gauge. There is one, though I dont really know what it does, if it is likely to work and whether it is of any use if it does work
    Neil, the gauge is a gadget, not worth a piece of poo, if it works it will register oil level when ignition switch is turned to first position with all your dash warning lights, on starting the car it is disabled. They always were lets say dodgy at best and as Shane has mentioned you are better advised to lift the bonnet and check your oil with the dip stick.

    By the way, welcome to the dark side

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    Hmm,

    Alan might want to comment on this too. It would be a LARGE job to retro-fit power steering, of course it's certainly not impossible. You wouldn't certainly know hydraulics well by the time you have finished.

    -You would need to fit a 7cylinder rotary pump
    -re-route the lines to get to the new pump
    -Fit the steering controller (the steering column)
    -run the hydraulic lines to the steering controler
    -Fit the daravi speed sensing 'ball' (for loss of a better name), this is driven from the diff using a cable (same as the speed cable). It is centripitle (sp) weights that are tied to a hydralic valve, the faster you go, the more the weights get thrown out, which moves the hydraulic valve, which in turn applies dramatically more centering pressure to the steering wheel.
    -Fit the power steering rack

    Yep a HUGE job, but certainly not impossible.

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    '78 GS1220 pallas
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    I have upgraded a CX 2000 wagon from manual to diravi steering. It was just a matter of getting the right bits from a wreck and swopping them onto the target vehicle. I guess I had a head start as apparently all wagons have a seven piston pump. If you are really interested I could write up a bit more from recollection.

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    By anychance was that the CX on the trailer in the carpark at French Car Day???

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    That would be the one should have parked it on the trailer on display the number of people that were looking at it.
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    Ahh, right; I've come up for air at last.
    I tried to answer on Sunday night but somehow lost the lot possibly as a result of a return trip to Brisbane and a coupla glasses of Chateau Car'bordeaux upon my return.
    The car looks good Neil; should come up a treat.
    The bumper strips are the same on my father in laws car before he bent it and I have seen them on other Supers; they are a stick on type and personally, I would suggest looking at AutoBarn or SuperCheap for some off the shelf ones to replace them.
    If you intend repaining, once they are taken off they look shytehouse if you try to refit and if you don't remove, all the paint will peel around them when the wax bleeds out. The original Pallas ones had screws or speed nuts holding them in; these didn't.
    Door liners, see a Frog Friendly upholsterer and get them recovered in a fabric/light carpet material. Keeps them uniform, much cheaper than replacing (if you can even find any liners) and is a job that most upholsterers seem to handle in their stride even though most CX owners freak out at the prospect.
    Steering conversion; I think Ken has it nailed in one; if you have a donor car to go part for part it's possibly feasible, but to start at the ground and work up............... verrrry frustrating and time consuming. Anyway, if you're 6'2" steering isn't going to be a problem. We drove a manual steer for about 6 or 7 years; I'm 5'6" but about 70+ kgs (at that time) and my wife about the same size and 53 kgs and we handled it. Her father was about 80 when he eventually wrote it off and at times even towed a caravan & often a 12foot tinny so whilst the diravi is very nice, the manual steer was quite adequate; I wouldn't worry about it. I think also that as I mentioned when you were looking at it, this is possibly the ultimate CX beginners owners car; it's simple, reliable and the easiest of all CXs to workon and maintain; leave it that way before you move on to the next stage and you'll enjoy it.
    Actually, it's a pity you couldn't get to Brisbane as I was down at Bruce Hoad's place a couple of weeks back & grabbed a few bits off a CX he's about to scrap. He has a lot of parts for sale, cheap, and plenty he just wants out of his hair including a 2200 motor and a 4 speed box neither of which he can guarantee the condition of but as he doesn't have the time or equipment to rip out of the car, will be heading to the tip unfortunately.
    I can't speak for Bruce and I don't know if the car is still there, but if you wanted to bring the 4be up with a trailer, I'd say he'd happily see the lot off or alternatively rip the mechanicals out & dispatch the rest to the tip & you pay the costs at the tip (possibly $25 or somewhere thereabouts)
    Could be a source for quite a few bits. Bit far I know, but if you need any of this stuff from the wreckers, most will make your eyes water.

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    Steering hasnt seemed to be an issue Alan, getting the leg under the queen Mary's tiller is more of an issue. My main plans for the car are to get her on the road again, new window and mirror, touch up the couple of rust spots and look to some painting and body tidying up over summer when the days are longer and the weather more kind to outside work. I may try to get seasonal rego for her first 3mths and then do the body work as the paint is very thin in places including the roof. The rear windo leaks but that would seem prudent to leave till the body work commences hardly rains anyway. Shane has a couple of 2200 supers for scavenging so it all seems to be working out well. Gotta love playing with the suspension though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruiserman
    Well here she is The towel on the seat is for the glass still there from the broken window. The seats are in vgood condition.
    Hey Neil, that looks pretty good. Not bad for a free car.
    It's surprising how people just get rid of these, You have one, I have one, Shane has one....all unwanted... all very nice cars worth having.
    With some time and some TLC they come up nicely.


    Maybe we should start a CX club.
    Only Kidding...cheers...George.
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    Quote Originally Posted by George 1/8th
    Maybe we should start a CX club.
    Only Kidding...cheers...George.

    Hi Aussies!

    No kidding, we did so last year in Germany. I'm member No. 49!

    Last weekend we met for the 10th "CX en Allemagne" meeting in Westhofen, Germany. One of the major attractions was an XXL CX which once was personally used by Erich Honnecker - remember him?

    He was the Chief Secretary of State of the former GDR (German Democratic Republic). And only Honnecker himself was using the Citroëns. All other members of the SED regime had to use Volvos. The car is now for sale and with only 5,000 KM it's considered to be almost brandnew.



    Here you find some more (free) pics I took last weekend ;-)))
    Watch it! If you click on the thumbnails the pics enlarge to 1600x1200px!
    http://www.avantime-gallery.org/other/wh2004/index.htm

    I'm also adding some further links for more pics of the latest and former meetings. (If you see a photo of an Avantime there: It's mine - and it was kindly accepted there. Perhaps because not only to my taste the interior resembles a kind of modern CX, what a mess that Matra was not allowed to put in hydropneumatique shocks from Citroën. )


    Phillips page (very nice page!)...
    http://www.zaix.de/web/html/cxsbilder.html


    ...and Wilhelm's Yahoo gallery
    http://es.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/...bum?.dir=/b477


    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by George 1/8th
    Hey Neil, that looks pretty good. Not bad for a free car.
    It's surprising how people just get rid of these, You have one, I have one, Shane has one....all unwanted... all very nice cars worth having.
    With some time and some TLC they come up nicely.

    George it was a case of new house no room for the car so the rego was let run out and the council said it had to be gone by Monday 12th or hefty fees would be charged. So it was give it away or get it crushed for free. I got it just in time as another member of CCCNSW went to look at it the day after I organized to get it and wanted it on the spot. The car attracted quite a bit of attention at the FCD in Sydney. It was parked on a trailer behind my cruiser at the time. Should have taken it into the display.

    Your restoration articles are going to be handy. The rear window needs resealing for starters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruiserman
    George it was a case of new house no room for the car so the rego was let run out and the council said it had to be gone by Monday 12th or hefty fees would be charged. So it was give it away or get it crushed for free. I got it just in time as another member of CCCNSW went to look at it the day after I organized to get it and wanted it on the spot. The car attracted quite a bit of attention at the FCD in Sydney. It was parked on a trailer behind my cruiser at the time. Should have taken it into the display.

    Your restoration articles are going to be handy. The rear window needs resealing for starters.
    No worries Neil, the hardest part is getting (cutting) the screen out. Refitting it is also tricky because the plastic mounts for the stainless trims are not removable, and they get right in the way.
    I think if I did it again I'd use sikaflex, but I'd try to carefully extract the plastic trim holders, at least one on one side to make access easier.
    Good luck...
    Hey, it's interesting that the CX was so popular at the car meeting. I just love these cars, I think mine will hopefully be liked by people who see it once I get it registered.
    Hopefully I'll have it all done before the next Froggie car day in Melbourne..whenever this comes up. For now it's back to the bathroom renovating.
    Cheers...George.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coupéspace
    Hi Aussies!

    No kidding, we did so last year in Germany. I'm member No. 49!

    Last weekend we met for the 10th "CX en Allemagne" meeting in Westhofen, Germany. One of the major attractions was an XXL CX which once was personally used by Erich Honnecker - remember him?

    He was the Chief Secretary of State of the former GDR (German Democratic Republic). And only Honnecker himself was using the Citroëns. All other members of the SED regime had to use Volvos. The car is now for sale and with only 5,000 KM it's considered to be almost brandnew.



    Here you find some more (free) pics I took last weekend ;-)))
    Watch it! If you click on the thumbnails the pics enlarge to 1600x1200px!
    http://www.avantime-gallery.org/other/wh2004/index.htm

    I'm also adding some further links for more pics of the latest and former meetings. (If you see a photo of an Avantime there: It's mine - and it was kindly accepted there. Perhaps because not only to my taste the interior resembles a kind of modern CX, what a mess that Matra was not allowed to put in hydropneumatique shocks from Citroën. )


    Phillips page (very nice page!)...
    http://www.zaix.de/web/html/cxsbilder.html


    ...and Wilhelm's Yahoo gallery
    http://es.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/...bum?.dir=/b477


    Cheers

    Holger

    Hi Holger, thanks for that reply, what amazing cars you guys have over there.! I love the Yellow CX TURBO ute, that would really turn heads around here.
    I don't think that there are that many CXs here in Australia. Maybe we could try having a CX day or something like you had over there.
    Such beautiful cars, there's nothing else like them.
    Cheers...George.

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