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    Hi all,

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    with the miracle of salary sacrificing and novated leases there is a really good chance I'm going to be looking at getting yet another car (this time for my wife) early in 2005.

    So far the list of possibles is Honda Accord Euro, Mazda 6, Renault Megane and Peugeot 307, Yeah I know the Reggie and Pug are a little smaller than the 2 japanese but I am a euro snob at heart and given this car is really going to the family thruster I can live with a little less performance.

    But, the point of this email. I understand Citroen will be releasing the C4 in Oz either late 04 or early 05 and I figure that its likely to be right in the middle of this class also but I'm having real difficultly in finding much information on it (other than pictures of higly modded rally versions).

    Does anyone here know much about it?

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    The main problem with trying to find any information about the C4 is that it has not been released in Europe yet. I think the official release will be at the Paris Motor Show in september.

    From what little information I have seen on the web or in motor mags, the C4 will be based on the same platform as the Peugeot 307, so it would be best to expect something in that class.

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    From what I've read, the C4 is expected to be released in Australia around June 2005.

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    it has the XU10J4RS like the Xsara ?

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    Hey Redbetaracer,
    Noticed your interest in Lancia and couldnt help posting this. After owning 7 of these cars and restoring one from top to bottom i have a few bits left over
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    Quote Originally Posted by XsaraVTS
    it has the XU10J4RS like the Xsara ?
    I don't know to be sure, but probably not. Most likely the XU10J4RS engine will not comply with the latest Euro emission standards. I would say that that any hot C4 will have the 130kW EW10J4S engine from the Peugeot 206 GTi180.

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    I would expect the 'hot' C4 to be a diesel. It is very much the trend now in Europe. Diesel technology is improving at a rapid rate. Vauxhall/Opel are bringing out a performance varient of the Vectra with a 1.9L twin turbo diesel. It has nearly 158kw and 425nm of torque! It also does 47 miles per gallon.

    Given that PSA have been at the forefront of diesel development, I'm sure we can expect a fast oil burning C4.

    And any car called 'C4' better have explosive performance
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    It is very much the trend now in Europe


    ...ceartinly seems to be the case....even the 1 series beemer has a diesel lump and apparently its the better performing of the lot (besides the possible M variant).........BUT aussies will NOT get this one (as reported in local rag).....So although Citroen has been very succesful with their diesels....I suspect the C4 (hot) will more liekly be the 130kw version.....Strange thing is...it ll be based on the 307 platform.....DID the 307 come with 180hp motor????...strange if it hasn t???....Maybe pug is waiting for C4 and than they will level out...


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    Quote Originally Posted by dino
    Strange thing is...it ll be based on the 307 platform.....DID the 307 come with 180hp motor????...strange if it hasn t???....Maybe pug is waiting for C4 and than they will level out...

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    The 307CC is available with the 180HP motor. It's called the 307 CC Sport, an optimistic name given it's weight.

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    Nice interior.
    Not sure about the styling, but I'm pretty sure it'll look better in flesh.
    So how much is it going to be in Australia?
    Any idea on the price range?
    something like $35K+?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leithant
    Good stuff! Thanks!

    I like the look of the 3 door version.

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    The 307CC is available with the 180HP motor. It's called the 307 CC Sport, an optimistic name given it's weight.

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    I was thinking about the standard full bodied 307??? Did it come with 180....I dont think so...



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    the new c4 especially the c4 sport that was posted in another thread, looks like a honda crx rehased... not bad though as i don't mind that shape
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    Quote Originally Posted by leithant

    Thanks for the fab Photos! Been hangin out to see production ready C4's. Good to see a strong difference between Coupe and 5 door. I'm due for a trade around June next year and C4 is due around then. I'm so excited I might go and talk to my Cit dealer this weekend !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino
    I was thinking about the standard full bodied 307??? Did it come with 180....I dont think so...

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    Nah, I don't think so either, at least not that I have heard of. I think they are pitching the 307CC Sport as the sporty 307.

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    Cool! Hopefully they'll get that 130kw engine in there and we'll have a lightish quick PSA car. Peugeot don't have a 307 hatch hero car at the moment...not sure if they ever will.

    This car will be on my shopping list in a couple of years.

    The current VTS is the last you'll see of the J4RS engine, though

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    OK, here is the Auto Motor und Sport article translated:

    Nose in front: Citroen with track-assistant and flavour-spender
    (right translation??)

    At the Paris Auto Show in autumn the Citroen C4 will have its debut as a
    4-dr saloon and a 2-dr Coupe.
    The follower of the Xsara is the first roadgoing car with optional
    track-assistant and serially flavour-spender.

    The new Golf competitor based technically on the sistermodel Peugeot 307. It
    gets the chassis, motors and transmissions from the 307. Length and width
    are only a little bit bigger than at the Xsara, which was very rare in
    Germany. In best times Citroen could only sell nearly 15000 Xsaras per year
    in Germany. This should change in October/November when the C4 will come to
    the dealers.

    The design of both models is oriented by lines which were typically for the
    extravagance of Citroen in former years. The 2-dr Coupe seems to be very
    dynamic. The back is glassed and spoilered. The silhouette of the 4-dr
    saloon is more rounded and more conservative and elegant than the 2-dr.

    The interior is totally new. The buttons at the multifunction-steeringwheel
    are integrated in the hub.
    This hub stays, also you are steering. The steeringwheel is adjustable in
    highness and deepness.
    Also if you adjust your steering wheel the hub will stay at the same
    position, so it is possible to have the airbag in the best position (says
    Citroen).
    The digital rev meter (changes color at different revs) is the only display
    behind the steeringwheel.

    The also digital instrument cluster (speedo, fuel, cooler diplay) is in the
    middle of the dash board. Below is the color display for the navigation
    system, audio system, bordcomputer and the optionally telephone sytem.

    Also Citroen take care of millions of selled flavour-spenders and build the C4 with one in serial. The customers can choose between nine different odors and the dealer will fill the cartridge with it.


    More important than that are the new safety-environments. ESP is serial and as an option there will be the first ever track-assistant from the french subcontractor Valťo. It scans the street with infrared-sensors and recognizes if the driver drives away from the street. If this should happen the seats would vibrate. Under 80kph and with using the turninglights the track-assistant is off, because if not the driver would be warned at every normal turning in the morning traffic.

    Also other available features show the technical ambitions of the C4: the Bi-Xenon lights are steering with the wheels and the air-pressure in the wheels are computercontrolled. Both are options which you normally find in bigger cars.

    The motor-line-up is in normal niveau:
    There are five different petrol motors from 1.4i 16 valves with 88hp to 2.0i 16 valves with 177hp and three Diesel engines (HDi) with 90 to 136hp. All engines are able to get through the EURO 4 restrictions.
    The two bigger Diesels have the FAP particle filter system.

    There won't be an estate version of the C4 and so the Xsara Break will be build for a while. The part of the multifunction vehicle will be played by the next Picasso generation in 2006 which will come in two lengths and with up to seven seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino
    I was thinking about the standard full bodied 307??? Did it come with 180....I dont think so...
    That's correct .. but the XSi 3 door is screaming out for it ... the XSE 5 door is actually quicker (less weight), one would think that seeing the 307CC sport has the 180 engine it'd be a sinch to drop it in the XSi ???

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    THE NEW CITROňN C4 - AN ALL-ROUND INNOVATOR
    CitroŽn will unveil the C4, its new mid-range model, at the Paris Motor
    Show in September before it receives its Australian launch at the 2005
    Melbourne Motor Show in March next year.

    Available in saloon or coupť versions, the C4 combines innovative styling
    with original features.

    The C4 Saloon and the C4 Coupť each have a strong personality. The saloon
    has a rounded profile, while the coupť favours a sharper line. Both
    vehicles share smooth, fluid lines for outstanding aerodynamic performance,
    one of CitroŽn's traditional strengths. They also share the same generous
    interior space, offering enhanced passenger comfort.

    The C4 owes its exceptional onboard comfort to a range of innovative and
    convenient features designed to make the driving experience enjoyable. They
    include a multi-functional, fixed-centre control steering wheel, designed
    to bring the main comfort and driving aid functions within easy reach; and
    a new instrument cluster that displays driver information on a translucent
    strip in the centre of the dashboard. The contrast of the display adjusts
    to ambient light conditions, ensuring easy readout at all times. All these
    features create a relaxed onboard atmosphere, which is further reinforced
    by details such as the styled scented air freshener and the laminated side
    windows for greater acoustic comfort.

    The C4 also offers a host of modern and efficient driving aids. The
    innovative lane drift warning system brings real progress in terms of
    safety. Designed to function on motorways or main roads, the system warns
    the driver if the car crosses a continuous or broken line, unless he has
    activated the indicator. Xenon dual-function directional headlamps that
    turn with the steering wheel - a feature usually reserved for vehicles
    further up the marktet - also make theire appearance on the C4. Driving
    comfort is further enhanced by the speed limiter and low tyre-pressure
    warning system - two features rarely seen on this segment.


    TWO HIGHLY DISTINCTIVE VEHICLES

    Mid-range cars account for almost one-third of all vehicle sales in Europe
    and worldwide. In such a vast market, the customer base is naturally highly
    diversified so CitroŽn is offering two new vehicles, each with its own
    distinctive personality.

    C4 Saloon
    With its fluid lines and clean contours, the C4 Saloon is a contemporary
    expression of CitroŽn's design values. Sporting smooth protective bodywork
    and unique exterior styling, the C4 embodies prestige and elegance.

    C4 Coupť
    The C4 expresses CitroŽn's vision of dynamic coupť design. Elegant
    proportions and fluid lines create a vehicle of harmonious design with an
    underlying promise of power. Combining a long front wheelbase and overhang
    with a short rear overhang, the profile of the C4 Coupť expresses the
    pursuit of aerodynamic perfection.


    AN ARCHITECTURE COMBINING AERODYNAMIC DESIGN AND GENEROUS SPACE

    The C4 is designed for outstanding aerodynamic performance, one of
    CitroŽn's traditional strengths. The two vehicles have a Cd coefficient of
    0.28 - the best in the segment - resulting in lower fuel consumption and
    reduced CO2 emissions.

    The vehicle architecture, based on flowing lines, contributes to this
    performance, while providing the same generous interior space in both the
    saloon and the coupť.


    INNOVATIONS FOR ONBOARD COMFORT AND RELAXED DRIVING

    A new expression of onboard comfort
    The interior design of the C4 is both comfortable and relaxing, with:
    - discreet, high-tech interior styling, reflected in the simple,
    understated dashboard design,
    - Innovations for simplicity and ergonomics.

    With the multi-functional fixed-centred controls steering wheel, the main
    driving aids (speed limiter, cruise control) and comfort features (audio
    system, telephone, etc) are centrally positioned for improved ergonomics
    and easy access. This layout also contributes to driving pleasure. For
    enhanced safety, the steering wheel includes a fixed section for an airbag
    that is shaped to match the driver's shape.

    The translucent instrument cluster in the centre of the dashboard displays
    information on a strip that lets the light through. The display contrast
    adjusts automatically to ambient light conditions to ensure a clear
    read-out at all times.

    A scented air freshener, styled to match the dashboard design, also
    contributes to the relaxed onboard atmosphere.

    The flag-shaped exterior rear-view mirrors and the laminated side windows
    improve acoustic comfort inside the vehicle.


    MODERN, INNOVATIVE EQUIPMENT FOR REAL PEACE OF MIND

    To address growing customer demand for top-of-the-range features, the C4
    boasts a range of modern, effective driving aids.

    - The Lane Drift Warning System is a major step forward in driving safety.
    On motorways or main roads, this innovative system warns the driver if the
    car crosses the lane markings, if he has not activated the indicator. A
    vibrating mechanism mounted in the car seat is triggered on the side
    corresponding to the direction of vehicle drift to alert the driver who
    may, for example, be feeling drowsy.

    - Xenon dual-function, directional/steerable headlamps (dipped and full
    beam), generally reserved for vehicles further up the market, provide
    improved lighting for cornering.

    The C4 also features equipment rarely found on the segment, such as a speed
    limiter and a low tyre-pressure warning system.

    The C4 is available with a wide range of engines from launch: five petrol
    engines from 1.4i 16V to 2.0i 16V developing between 90 and 180 bhp, and
    three new-generation HDi diesel engines developing between 92 and 138 bhp.

    Most of these engines already satisfy the Euro IV emission standard.
    Moreover, with the C4, CitroŽn is rounding out the range of vehicles
    equipped with the particulate filter. This technology - already fitted on
    almost 150,000 CitroŽn vehicles worldwide - further enhances the properties
    of the HDi engines in terms of environmental protection.

    The C4 reflects CitroŽn commitment to bringing customers innovative and
    appealing cars.

    By offering saloon and coupť versions, CitroŽn is pursuing a strategy
    initiated on the supermini segment, where it has three complementary offers
    (C3, C3 Pluriel and C2), each with distinctive styling to address
    wide-ranging customer tastes.

    The CitroŽn C4 range for Australia will be announced when it is launched in
    2005 at the Melbourne Motor Show, along with prices and specifications. It
    is expected that the range will be similar to the Xsara range, with the C4
    saloon available in 1.6 and 2.0 litre forms and the Coupe in 1.6 litre and
    high performance 2.0 litre versions.

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    Hi,

    Here are excellent quality "high resolutions" pics!!

    http://www.km77.com/marcas/citroen/c...ra/galeria.asp


    Nice!!
    The 307 looks already "old" compared to his new "cousin"...
    Pug forever!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puggist
    Hi,

    Here are excellent quality "high resolutions" pics!!

    http://www.km77.com/marcas/citroen/c...ra/galeria.asp


    Nice!!
    The 307 looks already "old" compared to his new "cousin"...
    Thanks - much better!

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    Pics can also be found at

    http://www.citroen-presse.de

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    For those interested, here's the latest write up on the C4.

    http://www.citroenet.org.uk/c4/c4-01.html


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