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    Hi, can anybody tell me if i can buy an after market fuel filter for my DS23 EFI so I donít have
    To order one from O/S.

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    I have used Ryco Z200 no problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by myourd View Post
    I have used Ryco Z200 no problem
    Thanks Myourd, went for a long drive yesterday and I thought that my fuel pump was getting louder and i was getting a slight miss in the engine so i thought this may be a good place to start.
    just checked and the supper cheap near me has one in stock will get it today.

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    This might sound silly but how much fuel is in the tank? The nylon pickup pipe in the tank shrinks over time and EFI cars aren’t very forgiving if air gets into the fuel rail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faulksy View Post
    This might sound silly but how much fuel is in the tank? The nylon pickup pipe in the tank shrinks over time and EFI cars arenít very forgiving if air gets into the fuel rail.
    Added to the fact that the pick up is on the right side of the car, and the tank is transverse, so low fuel level can mean NO pick up at all. The fuel gauge is very inaccurate and wavers excessively so as to be unreliable. NEVER let the tank get below a quarter full as a well cambered parking area can leave the fuel supply up in the air. Pumps work better pushing than sucking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzelhund View Post
    Added to the fact that the pick up is on the right side of the car, and the tank is transverse, so low fuel level can mean NO pick up at all. The fuel gauge is very inaccurate and wavers excessively so as to be unreliable. NEVER let the tank get below a quarter full as a well cambered parking area can leave the fuel supply up in the air. Pumps work better pushing than sucking.
    Especially as older Froggies (even XMs) were built to mostly drive on RHD roads meaning the camber of the road would put the remaining fuel in the right side of the tank where the fuel pickup is located.

    Below about halfway on a D the fuel gauge is just a friendly tiny orange hand waving hello at you every now and then. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by robo View Post
    Thanks Myourd, went for a long drive yesterday and I thought that my fuel pump was getting louder and i was getting a slight miss in the engine so i thought this may be a good place to start.
    just checked and the supper cheap near me has one in stock will get it today.

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    Hey Mark, let me know how you go with the Z200 once fitted, and I'll get one as well on mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrisson_citroen View Post
    Hey Mark, let me know how you go with the Z200 once fitted, and I'll get one as well on mine.
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    Hi Harrison, I guess i should have done this first after taking the the covers off to have a look at what I’ve got and it looks like someone has gone to a lot fo trouble to fit one with screw in ends on it so I’ll see if i can get the same or ill have to change the hoses to fit the Z200
    The one in is dated 2005. The pump is also non original and has no marks on it except XXX.34D7D1A9-EE1A-451F-BD56-1E7B4462B622.jpegAA4DA867-82EA-421C-8BCF-37CEEFF2E35E.jpeg

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    If the DS IE uses the same giant can filter as the SM, you can go to your local VW supplier. The original type Bosch 0450905030 was used for many years and fits, among others 1993-02 VW Pasaat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myourd View Post
    I have used Ryco Z200 no problem
    However, funny enough a quick Ryco search doesn't come up with a recommended fuel filter for the DS23.RYCO.JPG
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    The one I use looks similar but I can't read the brand..... DSCI0111.jpg

    Pretty sure it is a Bosch.
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    Auto barn has a recommended pump and it looks just like the one on my car.

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    I've had a Bosch pump for 8 years, never gave any trouble.DSCI0112.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrisson_citroen View Post
    I've had a Bosch pump for 8 years, never gave any trouble.DSCI0112.jpg
    Is it quiet? I needed to turn the radio up louder on mine..

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    Quote Originally Posted by robo View Post
    Is it quiet? I needed to turn the radio up louder on mine..
    Absolutely. Do you have the aluminium covers on ?. I can hear it of course as I turn the ignition on, I turn on and off about 3 times, till I can hear it "regurgitating" (for lack of a better word), then pump the throttle 3-4 times, and she starts perfectly ( you can pump with Injection models). From then on I can't hear the pump whilst engine running.
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    I once used a round rather large truck fuel injection fuel filter when caught in DS23EFI with clogged filter at Gunning. It dwarfed the square plastic Bosch original. Any EFI filter that will fit in the space under the driver side rail and with the correct diameter inlet/outlet should do the job. Never had a problem after,

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrisson_citroen View Post
    Absolutely. Do you have the aluminium covers on ?. I can hear it of course as I turn the ignition on, I turn on and off about 3 times, till I can hear it "regurgitating" (for lack of a better word), then pump the throttle 3-4 times, and she starts perfectly ( you can pump with Injection models). From then on I can't hear the pump whilst engine running.
    Yes covers are on, my car starts easy no problems, at idle its not bad but at speed rather loud, think i will change the pump and filter and see how it goes. Keep the old pump as a spare

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    Replace the hoses clamps with NON-perforated types, these have a habit of breaking when tightened. Either first time or when nipping them up after initial leaks.
    Had a Rally car 'preparer' use this type on a Mazda 323 Turbo series Two. Pre anti-lag so 1.5 Bar boost and the they slip off and or break. P15sed off, as it was to be my last ARC event and hoping for a good run.
    Brendan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluey504 View Post
    Replace the hoses clamps with NON-perforated types, these have a habit of breaking when tightened. Either first time or when nipping them up after initial leaks.
    Had a Rally car 'preparer' use this type on a Mazda 323 Turbo series Two. Pre anti-lag so 1.5 Bar boost and the they slip off and or break. P15sed off, as it was to be my last ARC event and hoping for a good run.
    Brendan.
    Will do, thanks..

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