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    Default DS Safari. Looks like a solid one.

    Saw this in a barn the other day. looks pretty sound. The dash had some work going on with it.
    Rear seats out but stored. There is a spare motor and other bits and bobs apparently.
    What do you reckon, worth an offer. If so how much?
    Allan

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    Picture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by badabec View Post
    Picture?
    Yes that would be handy.
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    Thought I had. The photo is way over the allowed 100Kb. It's 2.4 358D9497-F454-4943-A9BF-8ACBEA0F0669 copy.jpg358D9497-F454-4943-A9BF-8ACBEA0F0669 copy.jpg

    Hope this has done the job.
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    I don't know what the French is for "weak at the knees" but those photos do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    I don't know what the French is for "weak at the knees" but those photos do it.
    " J'ai les jambes qui flageolent" word for word: My legs are turning to jelly. You get the picture.

    Yes, nice car, very much looks unmolested from that picture.

    Ahem, what was that barn's address again?
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    Somewhere in Australia,

    Do you both feel OK?
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    I reckon somewhere in Tasmania. That narrows it down a fair bit!
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    As I am working my way slowly through dozens of rusted areas on my 64 Safari right now... check the chassis! The rest is almost easy... what year is it?

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    I'd say somewhere near St Helens in Tassie, that narrows it down even more. Keep an eye open for Citman.

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    I'm feeling better NOW!

    Brisbane-Hobart sat ONE WAY : $310!
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    I don't want to cause any undue stress to my fellow Froggers but what I wished to know is if this is offered to me, what would be a fair offer. BTW, it is in Australia ( mainland) also I have no experience of these vehicles except a great admiration for their technology and innovation.
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    That would depend a great deal on configuration, ie model, engine, year as well as condition of chassis, and general condition. Dependant on this it could go from 17k to 35k + . But the safaris experts will give you more detailed info. Best is to see it with someone who knows DSs
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    I agree with harrisson_citroen, there are many variables that need to be known, and even then it comes down to how much the new owner is prepared to do themselves if it requires repair/s.
    The number plate would suggest it once lived in the shire of Augusta - Margaret River.
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    you need to go look at it. it looks like a fresh restoration with nice 2pack paint. Aroudn the rear windows looks especially good. Being on proper caster setup to move it around and lacking hub caps makes me wander if its not "all there" ... ie: the paint might be done, but are all the mechanicals there ..... does it even had a motor and gearbox fitted
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    This is difficult to put a price on without a detailed inspection. A close inspection around rear side windows and tailgate for rust should be carried out along with other areas. Is it drivable ? What is it like mechanically?

    It looks to be a 70/71 DS Confort Safari 4 speed.

    Smart looking Safari.
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    Make an offer of 5 grand and go from there ..........

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    The owner is an elderly man.
    I was visiting the farm on an unrelated (to the Citroen) visit when we were looking around the farmers business and he was showing me his various old motorbikes (many). The talk turned round to cars and he then showed me this car.
    The owner of the Safari lived in one of the farm houses and was unavailable. The rear was completely stripped out showing an unblemished floor (no rust). I took the photos and that was as far as I went. I was told later that there were other Citroen parts stowed around. The owner apparently is getting too elderly to continue restoring. Don't know if it runs.

    PS The farmer has no interest in the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tasie C5 View Post
    The owner is an elderly man.
    Well considering they would have been about $7500 when new, whilst a Holden Belmont was $2800, and the elderly gentleman hasn't kept up with the Citroen scene, you could offer $7500, he might be thinking it's a good deal. Same price as when new!
    .......... But no! my conscience takes over!........ Do the right thing and offer $10,000, but only if absolutely perfect condition!!!!!

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    gather that some must 've thought that I meant what I wrote. But of course it was in jest, and I wouldn't offer a decent gentleman $7500 for his pride and joy safari.
    It was only an attempt at a petite joke.
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    Thanks for the advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tasie C5 View Post
    The owner is an elderly man.
    I was visiting the farm on an unrelated (to the Citroen) visit when we were looking around the farmers business and he was showing me his various old motorbikes (many). The talk turned round to cars and he then showed me this car.
    The owner of the Safari lived in one of the farm houses and was unavailable. The rear was completely stripped out showing an unblemished floor (no rust). I took the photos and that was as far as I went. I was told later that there were other Citroen parts stowed around. The owner apparently is getting too elderly to continue restoring. Don't know if it runs.

    PS The farmer has no interest in the car.
    If you want to do the right thing. Get it valued and pay him the amount they suggest. If its all there and everything is as good as the body, it's probably a $20+k car if it runs and drive. It depends how far along the restoration is. Is it's driveline there.. and good. is its interior nice .... is is 3 rows of seats ... or the fold up pair in the rear

    I'd just ask the owner what he'd like for it. If its more than your willing to pay, walk away, if its to cheap, I'd tell him what I think its worth ... and pay him what he'd like

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    Thanks Shane

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    Quote Originally Posted by tasie C5 View Post
    Thanks Shane
    Well its common sense. Even if you get it far to cheaply, if both seller and buyer are happy ... who cares I'm guesing this is someone who would be happy to see the car to a good ( any ?? ) home rather than sit in there shed any longer. So long as the seller is happy, I couldn't car less

    If its to expensive, walk away, you were never going to buy it either way. And now others know of its existance and you could guide any buyers on expectations so they aren't wasting both their and the sellers time. Don't be dissapointed if the seller has unreal expectations on price. Just walk away. Something else will come up in the future. I dont' really care about values these days. Because I don't intend to sell anything, and anything I buy I know what I'd pay for, and if I can't get it for that. well that's life

    I've been given cars in the past. But you need to look at it from the perspective .. of "is the seller happy with the deal". If they are, you are making the sellers life easier by buying the thing and enjoying it. They no longer need to think about disposing of the car.

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    Hi Tassie C5,

    I can't really add to the range of good advice above, but as a C5 owner, current and long term D owner I just want to endorse your interest in the safari.

    The photos suggest a potentially great car - and yes Bleudanube gives salient advice about lurking expensive chassis rust. That said, it appears impressive. Indoors, for one. And looks cared for. If the whole car is consistent with this impression (ie not a terribly worn and neglected thing with a quick tidy paint job), then it is a valuable car. If it's good appearance is superficial, then it's an expensive project that you probably don't need at any price.

    If it's substantial throughout, and good work done, then I'm sure the owner (when you meet him) will have a fair handle on it's value to him because he got it there. He may also be interested in the kind of enthusiast he wants to take it on, and this may be just as important to him as the money.

    So decide after your inspections, is this the D you would love to have? If yes, well I suppose I agree with Shane - what's the figure you can both live with? That's a personal thing for both of you. Remember, even if that car is really sound, it could easily still cost upwards of 5K to recommission and roadworthy. And there is clearly substantial effort for you in finishing off. So this might have bearing in the figure you're comfortable with. That said, a well-kept and sound Safari is a magical thing - and rare opportunity these days.

    In terms of market value, well you're not going to lose on a quality D that you love. Over the last couple of years I have seen nice Safari's change hands between 18K and 45K. And a posh classic dealership won't hesitate now to list a high quality D sedan in the 60-80 bracket. And they move them. The value of quality safaris easily keeps pace with the sedans due to rarity.

    So that's all academic - what counts is, what can you both live with? Just down to the respectful conversation.

    Good luck and I can easily see why you are interested!

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    Enjoyed that Middlemoon.
    If it was offered to me I suppose there are 2 options.
    1. Get it roadworthy on site and drive it home.
    2. Transport it over and finish it off here.
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