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    Default Mechanic payment conundrum..

    So I've had my Cit at a mechanics for about a year now. It was an electrical/electronic no start. I was okay to have it on his back burner.

    One of a collection of 14 cars..I didn't need nor want it in a hurry.

    Obviously he has had no success with getting it going, else I would have heard from him.

    Assuming I decide to reclaim vehicle and have another go at it myself, what do I legally and/or morally have to pay him for what ever time he may already put into it.?

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    Given that its still not going, this is a grey area.

    He may well have already spent more hours than the car is worth and will claim that accordingly, and want to keep it. Given the chap involved, I don't thing that's likely, however one can never be sure..

    My instructions upon delivery were that of, "don't go bananas spending too much time on it"

    Working model worth about $4000 max. with a tailwind.

    I guess my question is..how much do you pay someone for not fixing your car?
    I certainly want to pay him for his time/research, but not if he ultimately didn't have the know how..

    Prefer to not divulge car model and other details as may become obvious who is involved.. Just trying to get a collective idea on how to potentially proceed.

    Zero animosity at this point, but never before had a vehicle away for 12 months without any feedback nor update...!!

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    You must legally pay for any work you have been quoted for or authorised some places I have worked have successfully charged for storage and been adjudicated in fair trading as such but as always itís case by case basis and most decent people will come to a fair price


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    Depending on model I canít see how you couldnít get something going ,ok maybe something like a cagetronic that most donít understand but maybe pm me make and model maybe able to help


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    Hi
    I think if I was in your situation I would not assume anything but just go to the mechanic and ask what the situation is with the car, has he fixed it or if not what do you owe him for any work done so you can remove it.
    Then consider the answer he gives. Do not guess the answer before you start the discussion. You might be happy with his answer and no problems.
    When I sold my small engine workshop there were some items that had been there for a long time, fixed but not collected, or deemed uneconomic. Reminders had gone unanswered. I would have been happy for someone to come in for their item and take it away. Just sold them off or threw them out at the end after a last reminder..
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    if you asked someone to fix something and they said they would and then didn't fix it I'd say they don't get paid.

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    if you asked someone to fix something and they said they would and then didn't fix it I'd say they don't get paid.
    Not quite, Steven. "You" did leave the car there for a year, taking up a space that didn't make any profit for the shop. I would do as Jaahn suggests- go to the shop owner and hash it out with him. 2bx might be pleasantly surprised: say, a couple hundred in shop time (over here that's a couple or three hours) and maybe a hundred so to get something out of that space. If 2bx sends cars regularly, he might get away with nothing or next-to-nothing.
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    Id be taking the advice of jaahn - just ask the mechanic. Don't jump at (potentiall) shadows.

    I'll take a guess at who the mechanic might be. If I'm right I'd make a further guess that the car has been sitting at the back of the workshop with a figurative "oh, THAT car - must get around to trying to solve that one ..." And if is the mechanic/the workshop I'm guessing I'd reckon he/they will be very honest with you.

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    I would remind him of your initial conversation - "don't go bananas spending too much time on it".

    Tell him you have come to collect the car and here is a bunch of bananas as a thank you for the time you did spend.

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    There is a shared responsibility here. If you leave a car with a mechanic for a year and don't follow up on it every few weeks, then they aren't going to see your car as a priority. If you rock up a year later preparing for a fight over costs and work done/ not done, then you might just get one.
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    He may also say - Have checked a few things and they are not the cause of the non start; this is of value to you because you can rule those things out.

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    you could also just say keep it, it seems more trouble than its worth!

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    He's probably been driving it around for 11 months.
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    Thanks for all the replies.

    It isn't going to be storming of the Bastille, and yes I suspect he (and I) will be more than convivial.

    Its just that I'm not good with standing my ground in these (potential) situations. The last time the car was with someone, it was a Cit dealer, and they hoodwinked me with aggression that had me just accepting and tolerating their way... I go more flight than fight as the frontal lobe goes into panic.

    So this was just my way to have a sense of support should things go south!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bxornot2bx View Post
    Thanks for all the replies.

    It isn't going to be storming of the Bastille, and yes I suspect he (and I) will be more than convivial.

    Its just that I'm not good with standing my ground in these (potential) situations. The last time the car was with someone, it was a Cit dealer, and they hoodwinked me with aggression that had me just accepting and tolerating their way... I go more flight than fight as the frontal lobe goes into panic.

    So this was just my way to have a sense of support should things go south!!
    Open chat and "more sorrow than anger" I'd suggest too. Best of luck.
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    If you're uncomfortable dealing with these sort of issues, with whatever he says suggest you'd like to have a think about it and get back to him. (If necessary pretend there's a more pressing issue at that moment.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvr View Post
    If you're uncomfortable dealing with these sort of issues, with whatever he says suggest you'd like to have a think about it and get back to him. (If necessary pretend there's a more pressing issue at that moment.)
    Another good idea.. Time to formulate my perspective...dam this slow thinking mass o neurons..

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    rock up dressed like Robert De Niro aka Taxi Driver? The mohawk is mandatory for full effect and no sleep for 72 hours prior, uppers optional!

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    Are you suggesting Stephen that I go theatrical ?

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    A persona of confidence and no bull-shitium will be entered into?

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    been at the hospital with the old man man for 48 hours almost no sleep...does that count ?

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    This is sounding like a broadway play...what should we call it? "FIXED FORTUNES"

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    I just thought a mohawk could look good.

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    Sorry to hear that about the hospital. Best wishes.
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    Cannot wait to hear how the meeting goes.

    The big danger from overthinking it is that something unexpected will come up that totally blindsides your strategy. Like 'Oh, I fixed it months ago but I couldn't find your phone number'.

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    When I had my own Citroen garage, the only car that I couldn't fix was a 306 where a previous garage had seriously messed up the car's wiring loom. None of the loom ID tags were legible, so a new loom was not an option. The price for a loom was going to be £1300+ even if I did manage to sort one. I took the car to an auto electrical specialist and they came to same conclusion. I returned the car: no charge.
    He gave me £80 for my trouble. I still work on his cars twenty years later and we exchange Christmas presents every year.
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