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    Tadpole
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    The front end seems pretty tight, but the tie rod ends attached to the steering relay are completely flogged out (circled in red):

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    The car is 1961 and the tie rod ends on the relay arm don't seem replaceable. I couldn't find any easy work arounds. Best I can come up with is cutting off the tie rod end, threading it for a barrel adjuster and then making an insert to go into the end of the relay arm. Something like this, albeit with a traditional tie rod end rather than a rose joint:

    http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/49158...le-shear-mount

    I see that later models have replaceable tie rod ends, but I don't want to go changing the entire front end just to deal with two joints.

    Thoughts?

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    Good tie rod end-relay shaft assemblies are out there. Alan Sklenars in Hamilton NZ had some new ones last time I was there (some years ago now). The main difficulty in dealing with him is you have to go to his premises and talk to him in person.

    Roger

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    Hi Disgruntled,

    This issue takes me back, and I will no doubt face it again now I'm back into early cars. It's an annoying thing and creates that bit of vibration in the wheel - especially with hard cornering. If you can move the relay arms with your hand, you know they are stuffed.

    For my '62 ID, I purchased 'new old stock' relays from Citro Motors in earlier times, but these were an expensive disaster. They gave way after only a little use - I'm thinking because of their sheer age and lack of lube (no grease nipple - I see there is one in your pic. ).

    Modification along the lines you describe is the way to go, I think. My friend pressed apart the non-servicable joint, and fitted a servicable ball joint using peugeot (shhhhh!) parts of the same taper 203 through 505 are all the same bits, I'm told. Result, a lifetime fix of the problem.

    Tim
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    '07 C5 Wagon
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    '55 Big 15
    '56 Bentley S1

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    Citrotech has rebuilt relay arms. https://citrotech.nl/shop/product/hu...bekrachtiging/ They are different for power steering or not.
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    Cheers,
    John T.

    54 11BL; 61DS19 LHM (son's); 71DS21 BVH; 73SM 3.0; 73SM 2.7EFI; 73SM 3.0 (other son's); 74 Maserati Merak

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    I might have new steering arm if interested , also new hub and driveshafts for ID/DS 19

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