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    Hi Folks,
    Can anyone recommend a supplier of good quality spheres for my recently-acquired Xantia V6.
    The back ones are quite flat, so I figure I might as well replace the whole lot, so I know where I'm starting from.

    Has anyone heard of AEP Direct in the UK?
    They claim to have "Original Quality" spheres for what seems very reasonable prices.
    Doubtless, the freight will cost a bit though.

    Has anyone got a source of double membrane spheres? They sound like a good idea.
    The V6 has the extra middle spheres like the VSX.
    Thanks in advance.

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    Quite a few people, myself included, have used the Sphere Shop successfully(https://www.sphere-shop.co.uk/). Although the site is based in the UK, the spheres are shipped directly from continental Europe and are typically very freshly made. Freight is substantial. Last year I bought eight for a cost of Ä213. Postage added Ä134 but I still think it was a good deal. These days the new import tax might be added to this.

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    Thanks Andrew.
    I'll give them a shot.
    That's about the same price as AEP, and if they specialise in spheres, that gives me a bit more confidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostfrench View Post
    Thanks Andrew.
    I'll give them a shot.
    That's about the same price as AEP, and if they specialise in spheres, that gives me a bit more confidence.
    Chris.
    When I bought a set for my C5 the order was traceable all the way, from deposit in a French post depot to arrival in OZ and to the local distribution centre.... remarkable and pretty quick too from memory.
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    Yes the Sphere Shop is good.
    They don't do double membranes. I am pretty sure those are genuine Citroen only and only for the front suspension on Xantia. I got comfort spheres for my Xantia v6 from sphere shop. Not really happy with the result and have gone back to the originals.
    Excelent service from them though.
    Ian Steele at Balmoral Ridge , Sunshine Coast QLD ( Just Cits ) I think is still stocking their spheres.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caisson View Post
    Yes the Sphere Shop is good.
    They don't do double membranes. I am pretty sure those are genuine Citroen only and only for the front suspension on Xantia. I got comfort spheres for my Xantia v6 from sphere shop. Not really happy with the result and have gone back to the originals.
    Excelent service from them though.
    Ian Steele at Balmoral Ridge , Sunshine Coast QLD ( Just Cits ) I think is still stocking their spheres.
    I'm interested in what you didn't like about the "Comfort Spheres".
    Did it make the car too "Wallowy"?
    I figured that Hydractive suspension system would stiffen everything up when you wanted to drive more aggressively.
    The roads around here are so crappy that I would be happy to trade some handling precision for some extra comfort.
    Maybe the factory got the balance right and I should just order the original type spheres.
    Does anybody else have experience with these?
    All comments appreciated.

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    Personally I think that choice of tyres, and correct inflation, is going to be more important than softer spheres for that sort of road conditions.

    I have just put all new spheres on my Xantia SX. It's suspension feels very soft if you push the car up and down when stopped - if it was conventionally spring I'd say that the shocks were stuffed - but does a great job of smoothing out undulations that cause a conventionally sprung car to pitch and jerk. However it still transmits just as much road shock as the non-hydraulic vehicle, and I think this has a lot to do with the Hankook tyres, which are probably a tad overinflated...

    I'm sure it was on this very forum that I read (some years ago) some long-term Citroen owners claims that only Michelin tyres would provide the true Citroen ride. Doesn't mean I'd buy them, as the widely available models don't seem to offer terribly good wet grip.

    If the Comfort spheres were too much softer, I think you would really regret the loss of control that could result in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostfrench View Post
    I'm interested in what you didn't like about the "Comfort Spheres".
    Did it make the car too "Wallowy"?
    I figured that Hydractive suspension system would stiffen everything up when you wanted to drive more aggressively.
    The roads around here are so crappy that I would be happy to trade some handling precision for some extra comfort.
    Maybe the factory got the balance right and I should just order the original type spheres.
    Does anybody else have experience with these?
    All comments appreciated.

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    Hi, I chose comfort spheres for my 2006 C5 diesel with hydractive 3+
    I am a touch disappointed and am considering reinstalling the originals (which are factory and dual diaphragm ).
    Initially there was a small improvement in perceived ride..... Now diminished...whether to nitrogen loss or just plain old getting used to it syndrome. The ( not X7 ) C5 has strut front suspension like your Xantia.
    I find it has a tendency if it travels through a longish dip in the road ( causing lots of suspension travel ).. at that point the car considers the wheels are too far up in the wheel well, so it self levels and goes too high then takes some small amount of time to re establish normal height and reduce strut length and return to normal. I do not recall it doing that when equipped with the factory non comfort spheres. It also likes to increase its running height when approaching full lock but I believe that is a geometry and roll bar link phenomenon.
    The reason for replacing all 6 spheres initially was a hardened ride because the front centre hydractive sphere had gone flat .. typically the most difficult one to access.
    Knowing what I know now I would stick with factory damping .. however I wouldn't mind trying it with station wagon rated spheres which have higher gas pressure. Wagons seem to float better than saloons.
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    Yes I agree. The factory got it right with Xantia suspension.
    Comfort spheres have a noticable pitch though undulations and increased bounce. Probably a bit smoother on rough surface, but not really more comfortable.
    The Xantia has such good handling its a shame to diminish it. D.

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    Thanks for the info Guys.
    I thinks I'll stick to the standard ones this time.
    The comfort/handling equation is a tricky one, so I might just trust the original designers this time.
    Here we go! :-)

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    I have two Xantias and have replaced the spheres with standard ones from Sphere Shop on both. Happy with the results.
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