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    Default Light 15 Door Glass, Guides & Winders

    OK reassembling & need some experienced suggestions on how this is achieved.
    Fitting order for the guide, glass & winder please?

    Ordered bits from EU & not much looks similar to anything that came off except the window channel.
    There are 4 shaped flaps about 100mm wide that look like they fit @ the bottom of the doors somewhere.
    Stamped holes are close to the door card spacing but not quite
    There are 4 flat but stepped rubber strips 40mm wide that say window channel seals inside.
    Where do these go?
    What seals the upper outer door frame with the window?

    Will the windows go in when the guide is fitted or do they both need to go in together.
    There are a couple of dozen little aluminium clips but they don't obviously fit anywhere but are close to the same width as the guide. Do these need to be sikaflexed to the door frame before fitting the guide?

    Also how to make for EZ fitting if the top rubber strip about 30mm wide [with bubble one side] door seals?

    Many thanks guys.

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    A Lot more info will be needed if I am to tell you exactly. Pictures of what you have ordered will help. Are you replacing the glass rails? What channel clips were supplied? You should not need to Sikaflex anything!
    Refer to the spare parts manual for a reference on door components. https://sites.google.com/site/citroenpublicationslist/
    Pages 422-423.
    Cheers Gerry

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    The channel is not pictured but the same as was fitted to many marques around that time. flex metal covered in harder outside material with like felt internally.

    Photos of parts I need to install:




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    Here are some other window related seals with cardboard stapled to the rubber.
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    The rubber with the stapled card is the inner lower glass seal and is fixed to the door frame with the hammer in screw nails ( these are available from CTA in packets of 100, they are also used for carpet and fixing the nailing strip around the door frame that receives the Furflex trim.)
    The rubber with the section that looks a bit like a 'Comma' is the perimeter door seal and is a pain in the neck to fit without damaging paint and without stretching the rubber.
    The metal clips with the pointy triangular tabs retain the 'Bayley Channel for the glass to slide in. They are fitted onto the outer back of the channel so that the points pass through the channel in between the metal bars that allow the channel to be flexed to the glass shape. Fit them so that they are opposite the ovalised slots on the inner of the window frame. Then when you have worked out their positions the triangle tabs are hammered over so that the tabs bend outward inside the furry side of the channel. A block of wood and a metal bar about 4mm thick is handy to do this to avoid damaging the channel sides.
    The flaps with the holes in them go between the door card and the door and is a draught seal If you have a small boot car before '52 the holes will be wrong. Clark Rubber have a 1.5mm sheet that can be used to make new ones with holes in the spots that match the lower door. Set the rubber about 25mm lower than the bottom of the door frame.
    The other flat rubber (x4) with the thickened edge on one side is an alternative to the one with the stapled card. I used this in preference to the card edged variety . I was worried about the card and staples deteriorating.

    PS disregard the PM I sent you. I found it had auto saved!!!!!!!!
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    Thanks all done & dusted looks great.
    Rears were a PITA but front were in in 5 minutes each & EZ.

    Still have to fit the rubber around the tops of the doors.

    Seems these cars are not too dust or weatherproof?
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    They actually do not leak when set up properly. The rear glasses go in easier when the glass is fitted with the channel out of the frame at the top. The glass is place into the channel and once sitting square the channel and the glass are placed into position.
    The inner glass seals need to have the thickened side fitted upwards so that the garnish moulding can hook over the lip of the rubber , or if you use the card strip type, over the edge of the card strip.
    Cheers Gerry

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