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    Default X7 owner seeks repairer in Brisbane or Townsville

    Hi all, whilst holidaying in Townsville recently an X7 pulled up next to me in a carpark,
    the first one I'd seen since my purchase some 10 months earlier.
    Mature aged lady driver who clearly loved her car but lamented that it
    'seemed to have a gearbox problem, with maybe second gear'... undeterminable detail.

    Concerned about what she should do, or who 'even knows about these cars'
    I told her about this fine forum and that I would ask, and e-mail to her, a recommended repairer in either Brisbane where her daughter lives or Townsville,
    and so here we are.. over

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    She also lamented that even though she loved the car,
    that she was worried about the re-sale value.

    I told her the fix would likely be straightforward and that she may decide to keep it,
    since it would be better to manage her issue and
    continue to enjoy the pride of ownership that
    seems to come with these unique vehicles.
    She seemed quite pleased with her new found empowerment strategy..
    over.
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    For a diagnosis first up , there are a few specialists around Brisbane thankfully:

    Euroserve,

    French Car Care, and others, but I always recommend Von Bibra on the Gold coast if you need a Citroen dealer with the factory diagnosis equipment, as I have always found them honest and reliable.

    North of Brisbane, Cullens in Nambour also enjoy a great reputation.

    Why not first see if you can get a diagnosis using a Lexia clone , and plug it in to the usb diagnosis plug (in the centre console)
    Where is the car at the moment. If passing through the Sunshine Coast anytime I can help with a Lexia clone.
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    Reading the post I thought it's a transmission issue which should be able to be dealt by any decent transmission specialist?
    I've taken my two C5s (AL4/AM6) to Kennedy Automatics here in Mackay for fluid changes and for fitting a big cooler for the AL4. The owner's depth of knowledge of both boxes was surprising (should I've been surprised?) and wasnt at all fazed by the fact the boxes were mounted in a weird french thing.

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    Thanks Harrisson for your offer to help the owner..
    I do not have her address details, we were just chatting in the car park.. cars in common.
    She has family in Brissy, that I know.. so I'll e-mail her as you suggested.

    I'll advise her to have the issue diagnosed, she loves the car but is 100% non mechanical
    and was going to sell it at a huge loss, just because she felt out of her depth, so it seemed to me.. ?

    So I told her to join the forum, which I knew was not going to happen..
    So I got her e-mail address and here we are..

    if she gets it rectified she will be super happy and not have to concern with depreciation, win-win, viola ( my only French word)
    So thanks..

    The owner also spends time in Townie..
    I love it up there, in the winter.. haha

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    Thanks David, I agree... But who knows what the problem is exactly ?
    An elderly female driver asking for help from a stranger
    that just happened to mention that he had a similar car..
    I don't think 'money' is the issue.. so diagnosis may be way to go, just to be sure,
    and to develop a relationship with a repairer
    for next time something goes astray, was my thinking..
    hey, I don't even work here..

    Quote Originally Posted by davidc View Post
    Reading the post I thought it's a transmission issue which should be able to be dealt by any decent transmission specialist?
    I've taken my two C5s (AL4/AM6) to Kennedy Automatics here in Mackay for fluid changes and for fitting a big cooler for the AL4. The owner's depth of knowledge of both boxes was surprising (should I've been surprised?) and wasnt at all fazed by the fact the boxes were mounted in a weird french thing.

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    The Aisin gearbox problem is a bit vague, but it might be a solenoid problem, discussed often here. The solenoids are accessibly mounted.

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    try clicking the gearbox into sport mode. if the problem goes away then its a software issue.
    if the problem remains then try a full fluid flush.
    if no better then valve body or solenoids. not a huge job.
    these aisin transmissions are very durable and used in lots of cars. however the lifetime fluid is for the life of the fluid, not the car :-)
    best changed around 80kkm

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC1701 View Post
    try clicking the gearbox into sport mode. if the problem goes away then its a software issue.
    if the problem remains then try a full fluid flush.
    if no better then valve body or solenoids. not a huge job.
    these aisin transmissions are very durable and used in lots of cars. however the lifetime fluid is for the life of the fluid, not the car :-)
    best changed around 80kkm
    Not 100% correct by using sport mode you are using a different gearshift map so if itís a valve body problem you may well be moving it to slightly different pressure rpm timing which can hide problems same as resetting auto adaptive memory.


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    I agree with the statement. Changing to sport mode just changes the parameters for the shift, but the solenoid will still be at fault. A slurred and inconsistent 2 to 3 change, referred to in the industry as a "flare" especially with hot oil and an abrupt 4 to 3 downshift were the symptoms of my 6 speed Aisin warner.
    I bit the bullet ( via an Ebay seller in the UK ) and bought a new valve body ( at a price that was about half what my local automatic transmission man could buy one for )... and he fitted it. Thus we got a new valve body, as complete a drain and flush as is possible, new fluid and all for less than $1000.
    Any competent auto transmission shop can remove and replace these valve bodies.
    My guy had performed the same operation on a Volvo ( same box, hence his price knowledge ) a week earlier, and noted the C5 had more access room behind the front bumper than the Volvo, and was relatively easy. I got my old valve body back in the Volvo carton !!!!!
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    "But it's Sitrun! Everyfink is built back to front 'n upside down and uses left hand freads with pentagon headed nuts!"

    Comes the plaintive cry from brainwashed Australian, so called, mechanics.

    It's the smart ones who have realised that they're just another car that uses the same major parts as other vehicle brands.
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    Thanks guys,

    I'll ask the owner to get back with both the diagnosis and outcome.
    Then I'll post the outcomes full story, if I get it.

    If nothing else, I have myself learned quite a lot.
    And while I may be just plain paranoid ( from reading Uk forums Citonica)
    I am waiting the day when my much enjoyed Hi-Klm X7 (355k)
    taps me on the shoulder with some issue.

    Although thankfully, it was faithfully serviced, such a nice thing
    drives more like a machine
    than a simple car.
    Last edited by Biker; 12th January 2019 at 06:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biker View Post
    Thanks guys,

    I'll ask the owner to get back with both the diagnosis and outcome.
    As we know, they rarely do but you never know and no harm in asking..

    If nothing else, I have myself learned quite a lot.
    And while I may be just plain paranoid ( from reading Uk forums Citonica)
    I am waiting the day when my much enjoyed Hi-Klm X7 (355k)
    taps me on the shoulder with some issue.

    Although thankfully, it was faithfully serviced, such a nice thing
    drives more like a machine
    than a simple car.
    Good to know yours has 355000 ks and no major issue! What year is it? They do seem to get to high k's in Europe as well as taxis and other service vehicles, from reading the euro websites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrisson_citroen View Post
    Good to know yours has 355000 ks and no major issue! What year is it? They do seem to get to high k's in Europe as well as taxis and other service vehicles, from reading the euro websites.
    The unit is a 2010 C5 Touring Wagon (comfort I believe with cloth seats that self slide on door opening)
    The engine is the RHH and returns 5l / 100klm ... I get a genuine 1,400 on a tank.. highway mileage.
    White paint in excellent condition.
    Front lower wishbone bushes need replacing as do the disks, in due course..

    Everything inside works as it should.
    No squeaks or rattles at all.
    Uses no oil
    Rubber on the transponder is well worn, that's about it..

    This car is the spare.. I use it every day as a daily runner
    with many 1,000 klm round trips to the coast and back, just great..
    Has a long list of regular and expensive dealer services..
    it was passed on due to the mileage, fortunately to me.

    My 'main' unit is a 2009 Executive, low Klm RHR motor, ( that sounds gruntier)
    sits waiting garaged for the above to spit it's dummy... heh
    I picked it up in anticipation of the above having issues, since I liked driving it so much.
    So it looks like I'll be with Citronica for some time, and I'm ok with that.

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