Rear inertia seatbelts - 1974 Citroen DS
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    Default Rear inertia seatbelts - 1974 Citroen DS


    Good morning,
    Iím having a 1974 DS23 completely restored and I wish to fit inertia reel seat belts for the rear seats.

    Has anyone knowledge, drawings or photos of the fitting and a hour points please ?


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    Citro√ęn DS/ID and XM Web-Site

    i think you will even be able to send this to the printer and hand it to your engineer.
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    Hmm, so it is really a 4 seater.? Only fittings for two seat belts in the rear.
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    You can put a 3rd lap only belt between the two centre back seat mount points to get a some protection for a middle rear seat passenger.

    Cheers, Ken

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    I put to inertia real belts on the back of my d. Fixed belt in the middle. Remove the rear shelf trim. Protect the rear quarter linings. Cut slots on the shelf and drill bolt holes. I used a dremel as it is close to the corner and needs a small tool. Make up some reinforcement plates as the shelf will need them. Buy the belts from an Australian supplier so they pass roadworthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterMol View Post
    I put to inertia real belts on the back of my d. Fixed belt in the middle. Remove the rear shelf trim. Protect the rear quarter linings. Cut slots on the shelf and drill bolt holes. I used a dremel as it is close to the corner and needs a small tool. Make up some reinforcement plates as the shelf will need them. Buy the belts from an Australian supplier so they pass roadworthy
    Should have added I installed the eels underneath which gives a really nice look

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    Is there some reason not to fit the much safer manually adjusted 3 point harnesses?
    Inertia reel belts are lethal.

    cheers! Peter

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    Let’s not go here again peter. Lethal...... perhaps a properly adjusted fixed belt is better but they are rarely if ever properly adjusted. As I have said before in this forum because every motor manufacturer throughout the world and the regulators who test them fit inertia belts then lethal is not an appropriate description. They save lives. Simple

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    Technically it is possible to fit an inertial reel to the third seat in the rear by adding an extra hole to the parcel shelf provided it is not in the snap out panel for the rear speaker. Iíd be thinking very carefully about reinforcing the parcel shelf before doing so though.

    I did the same as Peter and mounted the reels to the underside of the parcel shelf. Makes for a nice clean install and allows you to avoid the factory mounts if they are in a questionable state. Given where they are this is somewhat likely.

    Iíll second Peters advice about getting the belts from and Australian company. Theyíre no cheaper overseas and depending on your roadworthy inspector could be a sticking point if they donít have the Australian standards logo on the tags. I purchased mine from seatsafe. Not sure if they still do but they used to offer a discount for aussiefrogs members


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterMol View Post
    Let’s not go here again peter. Lethal...... perhaps a properly adjusted fixed belt is better but they are rarely if ever properly adjusted. As I have said before in this forum because every motor manufacturer throughout the world and the regulators who test them fit inertia belts then lethal is not an appropriate description. They save lives. Simple
    'Lethal' is apt.

    Yes, an inertia reel is better than a badly adjusted fixed belt (& that, given the average punter's unwillingness to tighten a belt, was the legislators' perfectly rational harm-minimisation motivation for the change) but the amount of extra stretch allowed is indeed a life/death matter in any high stress accident.

    Unless one self appraises oneself as an idiot who won't adjust a belt properly, why fit a demonstrably inferior alternative? Again, 'lethal' is apt but I'm now ceasing comment in this thread - as requested.

    Bonne chance! Peter

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