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    Default Berlingo throttle dies,1.4 petrol?

    Anyone had this ?

    Went across a cattle grid yesterday and the Berlingo died, idles but no throttle response?

    Got out and fiddled with the connections and tapped a few things and it was fine.
    Happened again going into town to get the mail same deal.
    All in the throttle body it seems

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    Any ideas?

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    Yep. Xsara 1.6 NFU engines do this too if the ECU detects a problem with the position sensor on the main butterfly. You need to give the connector a good clean on both sides with some contact cleaner and then put it together with a zip tie around it so it cannot move due to external vibration.

    Good luck with this one. Hopefully that will reduce the frequency of the problem.

    Cheers, Ken
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    Ken,

    So it is the connection rather than the throttle position sensor?
    The pins are very fine so there is potential for poor contact.
    i notice a number of throttle bodies for sale on eBay so maybe the problem is not understood well?

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    We replaced and re-wired the accelerator position sensor on our NFU Xsara 2 and it made no difference. We had more luck when we worked on the connector to the throttle body ie the motor that moves the throttle butterfly and the associated position sensor. I guess there could be a failure in the throttle body and it needs to be replaced, but the butterfly motor is working OK as it is controlling the idle OK based on engine speed. Maybe a Diagbox session might help narrow down where the fault lies.

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    I tried the cable tie and closed the connections around the pins.
    Went in to the village today and it was OK.
    Going to Sydney later in another car, so will get another throttle body assembly to be safe.

    We had two Xsara with the 1600 t/cam, never had one bit of trouble in any respect.
    Metallic paint on one sun damaged.
    White car might put back on the road for daughter.
    What great cars the Xsara are!

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    You've got me scratching my head now -- where's the village? The metropolis of Bredbo?
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    I collected the throttle body and it made no difference but it seems to be in the Throttle Position Sensor .

    Connector plug or the device.
    You r/replace the plug and give the device a tap and it works for a time.

    I will do a scan for faults tomorrow.
    Pity i didn't get the TPS when i was in Sydney.

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    Seasink,

    rural life has it's moments.
    Nothing happens in Bredbo that i have noticed.
    Very few bills arrive in the mail.

    Its more lively towards the coast, Candelo General Store has the best coffee.

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    I have been dropping into Candelo every time I go to the far South Coast. It's a wonderful place, though I remember more retail activity in 1968 than now

    How long before all the Victorian colonies on the coast ruin it?
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    The coffee at the general store is great, puts most city coffee to shame.
    Staff are delightful .
    And one drives a GTI 180.

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    Seasink,
    any views on the TPS?

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    I'm not au fait with Berlingos, but I spotted the Bosch catalogue is still online at http://jenniskens.livedsl.nl/technic...nformation.pdf See p8. You'll notice that the outputs are linear as the rotation increases, so you can test one with a digital volt meter.

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    VDO devices, in this case.

    Would have been handy to have been Bosch.

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    VDO TPS was replaced with a new item.

    Bumps still effect it and the engine goes to idle.
    Seems OK on the bitumen , went into Bega yesterday no issues but on the bumpy dirt road it dies.

    Now wondering if it is the fuel pump on the way out?
    Too hot to test today, later when it is cooler.

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    Good news.

    replaced the pump on the weekend. No change, just less noise.

    Cable to TPS.
    All parts clearly labeled VDO, Throttle Body, TPS.


    Checked the fault codes today.
    PO135.
    So then replaced the O2 sensors to clear the dash light.
    After this there was no dash light even after driving in the heat of summer today. 38' here.
    I did about 40klms in the heat went up the hill no problems .
    Seems fixed.


    Odd thing is that the dash light and the fault have been there for about two years, never missed a beat til recently.
    Seems it was the exhaust sensor in the extreme heat.
    Very few vans here with this VDO set-up.
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