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    Need to borrow a h/p pump for a few days for my DS 19 in Melbourne or near surrounds if possible thanks

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    Wow ... I was expecting single cylinder ID19 .... It could be fun finding an LHS 7cylinder pump in Australia (USA could be a good bet ). An LHM pump would probably work for a short time until any seals in it died.

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    It is possible to fit LHS compatible seals into an LHM pump. Once the outer cover is removed the rest is straight forward.
    An added advantage is that the valves are likely to be in much better condition in an LHM pump. LHS and LHS2 pumps suffered from corrosion on the valve plates and the faces where the O ring seals fitted against the main steel body.
    LHS seven piston pumps were also fitted to some ID-19F Safari wagons
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    All safaris had 7 piston pumps.

    In the short term you could use an LHM pump. I have, and it worked fine.

    In the longer term, as Gerry says, just rebuild an LHM pump with EPDM o-rings.

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    All export Safaris! I have seen some private import examples with the single piston pump!
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    Or convert to LHM.

    I'd thought very early Safari without power steering had a single cylinder pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    Or convert to LHM.

    I'd thought very early Safari without power steering had a single cylinder pump.
    Correct!
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    This is interesting. I always thought all safaris had the 7 cylinder pump no matter whether they had manual or power steering, along with other DS features such as a brake accumulator and "trolley" brake valve. The larger diameter rear suspension cylinders would have required higher flow, too (although suspension is not generally a big user of hydraulic fluid). So I made my bold statement without looking up anything.

    I have just looked at my ID19 safari spare parts catalogue (No. 479, 1959 to 1963 models, June 1963 edition) and it makes no mention of the single cylinder pump. So either these very early safaris were pre-1959 or they were made with a single cylinder pump despite what the spare parts catalogue says.

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    Is that the Slough Break and Ambo catalogue? Maybe, Slough only sold the Safari with power steering and therefore the 7-piston pump? Reynolds notes that early French production had no power steering and a single piston pump. Were the rear cylinders also enlarged early on?

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    I do not believe Reynolds. I think De Lange is more reliable, but I do not know which parts of the book he wrote and which Reynolds wrote.

    Yes, I was referring to a Slough spare parts catalogue, the one with the light blue plastic cover.

    I have just looked up my French safari spare parts catalogue, No. 479, July 1960, covering 1959 and 1960 models. It contains only manual steering, a brake accumulator, the trolley brake valve, and most critically, a 7 cylinder high pressure pump. It contains no single cylinder pump. My bold statement might not have been so bold after all.

    Both books list only one rear suspension cylinder, DF 434-02.

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    Is that a Star Trek comment?
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    No, it's a straightforward continuation of the discussion.

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