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    I think Benz's fortune can be tied to immigration. There are a great many Mercs around here, possibly the most common brand, and at least 90% are driven by persons of Chinese appearance. It has status value in the east.

    Audi seems to be the local choice for upward climbing Australians. My Citroens are just a local eccentricity. They show about as much status as a Morris Minor. You'd be hard put to count many Holdens or Fords.

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    An importer genuinely interested in increasing sales would do some research to find why most of the 8700 buyers of Peugeots in 2007 didn't buy another and which make they turned to. Anecdotally of course it was servicing problems and they bought Volkswagens and Skodas but you don't market cars on anecdotes. There is an assumption that Inchcape wanted these brands but did they gain the agency by tender? They may have put in a low tender on spec and got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Hall View Post
    An importer genuinely interested in increasing sales would do some research to find why most of the 8700 buyers of Peugeots in 2007 didn't buy another and which make they turned to. Anecdotally of course it was servicing problems and they bought Volkswagens and Skodas but you don't market cars on anecdotes. There is an assumption that Inchcape wanted these brands but did they gain the agency by tender? They may have put in a low tender on spec and got it.
    Yes, that's a great point! I'm really looking forward to see what Inchcape have install for the brands for 2019.

    Now remember, they wanted to concentrate on Peugeot first with the relaunch, which is what they did and released the 3008 and 5008 as their sales saviours, but still, sales slide south by 16.3% and with total sales below 2,900 units. Apart from the new 508, I'm not actually sure what else they have to look forward to in 2019? And the 508 isn't going to add any significant volume!

    At least Citroen have the new C3 Aircross, the updated C4 Cactus and new C5 Aircross coming. Plus we'll see the new Berlingo LCV and maybe even the new Dispatch LCV too. Citroen sales SHOULD increase in 2019.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iLaguna View Post
    At least Citroen have the new C3 Aircross, the updated C4 Cactus and new C5 Aircross coming. Plus we'll see the new Berlingo LCV and maybe even the new Dispatch LCV too. Citroen sales SHOULD increase in 2019.
    Well, they can hardly decrease!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iLaguna View Post
    Apart from the new 508, I'm not actually sure what else they have to look forward to in 2019?
    Just getting stock would be good. Tried to get a test drive of a 308 GTi and the dealer won't be able to get one for a few months!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iLaguna View Post
    Yes, that's a great point! I'm really looking forward to see what Inchcape have install for the brands for 2019.

    Now remember, they wanted to concentrate on Peugeot first with the relaunch, which is what they did and released the 3008 and 5008 as their sales saviours, but still, sales slide south by 16.3% and with total sales below 2,900 units. Apart from the new 508, I'm not actually sure what else they have to look forward to in 2019? And the 508 isn't going to add any significant volume!

    At least Citroen have the new C3 Aircross, the updated C4 Cactus and new C5 Aircross coming. Plus we'll see the new Berlingo LCV and maybe even the new Dispatch LCV too. Citroen sales SHOULD increase in 2019.
    But they need dealers but.
    Doesn't matter how good the product is if you can't buy one.

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    3 dealers in nsw ???


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    It's about a dozen, but nobody seems to have a Citroen on display.

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    We do


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    Cairns dealer a C3 (they are a kind of annex round the corner from the Audi showroom) a 2008 and a 5008, Townsville (had) a C3 and Berlingo, 2 x 3008 and a 5008, but there PSA (was) that dealership's most prestigious ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fnqvmuch View Post
    Cairns dealer a C3 (they are a kind of annex round the corner from the Audi showroom) a 2008 and a 5008, Townsville (had) a C3 and Berlingo, 2 x 3008 and a 5008, but there PSA (was) that dealership's most prestigious ...
    I think Townsville has the WHOLE C.. range at the moment - water as far as the eye can see.

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    https://www.afr.com/street-talk/uk-s...0190206-h1awoy

    I'll just leave this here … Read into it what you will.

    Could also explain why Inchcape have been a little preoccupied and laying low of late.

    Edit: Sorry, the link isn't working, but if you search for it, you'll find the actual article. Inchcape looking into selling Holden's.
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    Fascinating. Perhaps this will work? https://www.afr.com/street-talk/uk-s...0190206-h1awoy

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    Seeing PSA own the European Opel business and if GM arenít as committed as they were in the local manufacturing days, it would be a logical way out for them I guess.
    Imagine Peugeot and CitroŽn possibly becoming a common sight.


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    With Holden badges?

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    https://www.whichcar.com.au/car-news...eave-australia

    And here's another link that has just popped up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    Seeing PSA own the European Opel business and if GM aren’t as committed as they were in the local manufacturing days, it would be a logical way out for them I guess.
    Imagine Peugeot and CitroŽn possibly becoming a common sight.
    With Inchcape running the show, I suspect it will more be that Holdens will become an uncommon sight!
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    I would be more concerned that they might be tossed by inchcape again.


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    Being tossed by Inchcape a bad thing? Inchcape has made its money buying up a failing import business and its unsold stock at bargain prices, has no idea how to sell them or perhaps even what they are, has downsized the dealer network and is continuing the sales slide towards the 1950's. Peugeot has a long history in Australia that Inchcape chooses to ignore although you argued in the Peugeot forum that they were too busy selling cars. Pity the sales stats don't support that view. Dommerson revived Peugeot in Australia by harking back to the past, sponsoring the Redex Re-run, commissioning Ewan Kennedy's book, a quality owners magazine and it paid off with the highest market penetration ever. Unhappily a combination of problems with the cars and the service network undid the good work and we all know the sales decline. If Inchcape is serious about selling Peugeots they should first get a car person not a grocer to run the show and then show some interest in the past of the cars in Australia. The might learn something from the basic industry principles of men like Alec Chapman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MELso View Post
    With Inchcape running the show, I suspect it will more be that Holdens will become an uncommon sight!
    Thatís why the dealerships need to become multi brand rather than Ďtruckí dealers .........the Commodore only has 105mm ground clearance but the 3008 is double that, and that makes a Peugeot more suitable for many Ďcockiesí than the famous Holden.


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    Have faith - supply will support the new model releases hopefully in March. Itís been a torrid time in Europe due to ongoing WLTP requirements.


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    Default INCHCAPE To Show Us How To Sell Citroens?

    Whoís going to take them on. Subaru tend to sell quite well.
    YearCitroen DS Peugeot
    20073803Ė8807
    20082703Ė7254
    20091602Ė5744
    20101513. 905649
    20111212 2035220
    20121366 339. 5071
    2013762. 418. 4413
    20141019. 288 4394
    2015923. 183 4000
    2016890 75 3129

    So what was Rob doing when sales went into free fall when did he leave 2014? Or could it be in fact Russell Hall that you are Rob Dommerson. Shaggy and Scooby gasping


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    Apologies for those numbers spaces went funky


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    Could we talk PSA into taking Holden off GM's hands, letting Inchcape operate the remnant network but using the R&D facilities here for the Asia-Pacific development, like Ford?
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    Unfortunately the volume possible is not worth it they will be back in ďmericaĒ before that happens.


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