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    Does anyone know how you find out if maps are up to date or any other software matters?.
    I must have one of the last new ones but the dealer is nearly 3 hours away.

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    Hi,

    I don't think so, but I can find out for you.........and come back.

    Citroen use Magneti Marelli for the Australian Sat Nav Maps, and it's also used by Maserati. I think the last lot of updates was from Maserati, and updates for Australia are not at the top of their list :-((

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Hi,

    I don't think so, but I can find out for you.........and come back.

    Citroen use Magneti Marelli for the Australian Sat Nav Maps, and it's also used by Maserati. I think the last lot of updates was from Maserati, and updates for Australia are not at the top of their list :-((

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    Greg
    Thanks Greg,
    I went into the system and it's SMEG 5.2 I seem to remember..
    The books weren't even stamped by the dealership with warranty start/end dates or even who first sold it (them)!
    I don't know if the battery is the original Feb 2015 build date either or if any maintenance has ever been done........nothing has been documented anywhere.
    I don't know if there are any firmware or software updates outstanding even.
    I'm hoping Inchape take PSA products seriously for once....Sime Derby certainly didn't.
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    You need to make sure the dealer has updated the PSA system with you real sale/start of warranty date or else you will miss out on 2 years of warranty. PSA set the date a few months after manufacture and if the dealer does not update it at sale, then you will be having arguments down the track.

    You can check this yourself if you set up an independent operator service account on service.citroen.com, put in your VIN and look at the characteristics tab. This will give you the the ID and build caharacteristics for your car.


    Also try to the the BSI security code from the dealer.

    Cheers Ken
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    Hi Guys,

    I have the software CD upgrade disc, it's readily available from Citroen. Its Software 8.31 for RT4 & 5. I'm not sure when it was released.

    Cars around 2008 have software with the old Chevrons, and this disc update to the latest logo (as well as other changes).

    There is also another disc for RT6, I can get it! The other disc was only a few Euro.

    I'll try and find out this week what is the latest for maps.

    Ken's suggestion re Citroen Service is a good move, and you can find out heaps about you car by clicking on Characteristics. If you print it out (right mouse button), it comes in handy for future reference.

    Expand all the different section before you print.

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    Thanks Ken&Greg, good info
    Any idea what the 'engineered' slot, just left of the driver's side vent, is for?.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken W View Post
    You need to make sure the dealer has updated the PSA system with you real sale/start of warranty date or else you will miss out on 2 years of warranty. PSA set the date a few months after manufacture and if the dealer does not update it at sale, then you will be having arguments down the track.

    You can check this yourself if you set up an independent operator service account on service.citroen.com, put in your VIN and look at the characteristics tab. This will give you the the ID and build caharacteristics for your car.


    Also try to the the BSI security code from the dealer.

    Cheers Ken
    Thanks Ken
    It came up in French though and for some reason Google didn't offer translation. Is there a U.K. site instead?.
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    Nagaman,
    Your infotainment system is a different architecture than the RT series, so Greg's generous offer isn't going to help in this case.
    Your system and mine, runs on the SMEG 5 architecture.
    There is also a SMEG 6 architecture released in late 2016, which is completely different hardware and we can't upgrade to it.

    I spoke to my dealer about this last month, and got them to update it to the latest version of the SMEG 5 software.
    Mine was running SMEG 5.2 from 2014 previously, I'll have to check tonight what version it was that they put on there.

    SMEG 5.4 was released in 2016, and there have been a number of smaller releases since then.

    The dealer said that I have the latest maps available, which are stored separately from the infotainment software, so they can be upgraded independently. Unfortunately the "latest" maps are from 2014!

    The dealer told me the slot was for storing those paper parking cards you get when parking at some parking garages, though it seems awfully over-engineered for that task...
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    Originally designed for the switch to operate the break-in alarm. Since there now was a hole PSA decided to turn it into a "card holder". Together with the " no spare tire" and the fuse box mess for right hand drive one of the strangest design features ever...

    - Interior volumetric
    The system checks for any variation in the
    volume in the passenger compartment.
    The alarm is triggered if anyone breaks a
    window, enters the passenger compartment or
    moves inside the vehicle.

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    To change the language on Citroen Service, it's in the bottom left hand corner.

    Best regards,

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    BTW,

    I can get the update disc for the RT5, but I have to order it in. It's $10.00.

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    We Had:
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    Thanks all
    I rang the service department to check if I needed to book in for updates because the salesman had said "just pop in and we can do it ....no need to book"
    Hmmm......a bit high handed I thought.
    Service dept disagreed....need to book.
    No books have been stamped as sold and no warranty commencement date either .......somewhat casual.
    Battery is going on to 2.5 years old already.....engine oil age?
    Left and Right hands haven't met it seems.
    I'm starting to think I might be better off continuing to use my TomTom device, as the inbuilt one was trying to direct us down narrow dirt roads on a recent trip. Does it 'learn'?.

    ps, anyone had a slightly misaligned steering wheel on a PDI d car?.
    Seems to be a current PSA thing with the new 3008 also.

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    I checked the version that was installed by the dealer and it's SMEG5.42, which should be read as 5.4.2, not five point forty two.
    It seems to be improved, though I haven't spent enough time with it yet to draw any real conclusions. It's certainly not worse.

    I'm really hoping they update the map data soon, some of the data in the 2014 maps is quite bad. According to the dealer, we can claim 3 free map upgrades during the factory warranty period (6 years). That doesn't really help if there is no new map data available though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CitroenRabbit View Post
    I checked the version that was installed by the dealer and it's SMEG5.42, which should be read as 5.4.2, not five point forty two.
    It seems to be improved, though I haven't spent enough time with it yet to draw any real conclusions. It's certainly not worse.

    I'm really hoping they update the map data soon, some of the data in the 2014 maps is quite bad. According to the dealer, we can claim 3 free map upgrades during the factory warranty period (6 years). That doesn't really help if there is no new map data available though.
    So the only update is for the firmware it seems.
    Almost certainly the map updates won't be done unless you insist at each of the 3 annual services, if there are any.

    Where do these maps come from I wonder .



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    Maps for this car come from here maps and are complementary during warranty period the latest set is coming soon


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    Quote Originally Posted by CitroenRabbit View Post
    I checked the version that was installed by the dealer and it's SMEG5.42, which should be read as 5.4.2, not five point forty two.
    It seems to be improved, though I haven't spent enough time with it yet to draw any real conclusions. It's certainly not worse.

    I'm really hoping they update the map data soon, some of the data in the 2014 maps is quite bad. According to the dealer, we can claim 3 free map upgrades during the factory warranty period (6 years). That doesn't really help if there is no new map data available though.
    After confirming updates had been done this morning, coming home we were constantly directed via dirt tracks again.
    A waste of time, the inbuilt system.
    At least there's a ledge for the TomTom.


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    Hi Guys,

    It's taken a while to get some info, but I can now tell you that there are no further map updates for RT4 & 5. This includes C5 & C6 3.0 V6's etc.

    The last updates for that Sat Nav is 2015

    There are updates for RT6 and they are generally yearly.

    The biggest problem has been getting maps from Magneti Marelli for such a small market. I'm happy with Google maps on my I Phone

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    We Had:
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    I assume PSA satnavs will all be TomTom driven now.


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    Hi,

    With the earlier Citroen sat nav systems, especially RD4(?), the package really didn't suite Australia, as the phone system used a duplicate Sim Card, which we didn't use.

    I think PSA was in a bit of a bind, as they used MM for the equipment, but the only other user of that system in Australia was Maserati.

    So I think it was a bit like Citroen and SUV's.......What SUV's

    Thinks might get better with the purchase of Opel / Vauxhall, and the new Commodore to be an Opel, but then PSA wasn't very good at running two companies (I'll leave DS out of the equation at present?), so only the future can tell what will happen with four , and 2 haven't made a profit in 10 years

    So if PSA can't get it act together for Sat Nav............

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    We Had:
    1930C6F, '73 GS1220 wagon X 2, '75 G special, '75 GS panel van, '74 GS Birotor, '82 GSA panel van with factory AC, '85 CX25GTI BVM, 2002 C5 V6, 2006, C5 S2 HDI, '86 BX19GT, '72 DS21 BVM, '55 15/6H, '54 Lt 15,'73 Dyane, '82 Visa Super X, with Chrono Mecs & factory AC, 1972 SM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    I assume PSA satnavs will all be TomTom driven now.


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    Yes on the latest 'live' system .
    But let's not forget that sime darby did a fair bit to get here' maps updated as regularly as it has ask any commodore driver have many updates they get during warranty period let alone for free.



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    Sime Darby was incapable of updating my maps on my 208 a single time, despite them being "free updates" for all three services.

    I'd ask and it would be completely ignored.

    It was an empty promise, like most of theirs - marketing had no control over the dealers.
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    That was not sime darby fault I would be asking why the DEALER didn't


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    Quote Originally Posted by dmccurtayne View Post
    That was not sime darby fault I would be asking why the DEALER didn't
    Perhaps you weren't aware who ended up operating the Parramatta dealer?

    Thankfully, even they knew when it was time to put everyone out of their misery
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    I've had a map update done by the dealer on my 2015 Grand Picasso with no problem at all. And yes, before anyone asks, the maps are a later version. In fact, I can't fault my dealer's service on the Picasso, and believe me, I know when things haven't been done correctly!
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    PSA dealers may not be prepared for what is about to happen on the endless updating front with the new 3008 being a potential nightmare for them.
    They will have to find a secure compound for the 30-40 minutes of engine running when firmware, software and map updates are demanded by the owner, particularly in the first 3 years.
    That is, if they know what they will potentially be missing out on, of course.
    Not many will want to do it themselves, I suspect.


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