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    Yesterday was a cool day with temperatures not going much above 10 in the Golfield areas of Victoria.
    One fair criticism of a ’74 DS23 Automatic Pallas is that they can get hot in the Australian summers. As we have moved down from Brisbane the four D’s that now live with us are that little bit happier. The 5th, which is our ’74 D Special, it seems should be spelt DSpecial, still resides in the warmer climate of Brisbane for the times that Janet goes up to see relatives.
    And so yesterday was a perfect day to take the Auto for a proper drive - - other than being Janet’s everyday or so shopping car. Trentham for a coffee at the Red Beard bakery and then onto Woodend which was busy as it was a Sunday. A small market and lots of motor bikes parked next to the bakery. We rounded the corner to see maybe 8 – 10 Jaguars parked in front of the bakery. It was fun to compare the different types of E Types among some other beautiful cars. Of course we had to drive through the middle of them on the way out just to remind the owners what a “proper car” looked like. Onto Kyneton and then home. A lovely Sunday drive in a wonderful car. With Lance Collins help in Brisbane some time ago we exchanged the later “fixed” spheres with the adjustable ones with the round discs so that the ride was that bit softer.
    The one time when I thought the “tight” spheres were good was when I had a very exciting drive through Brisbane in Jim Reddiex’s DS23 rally car - - driving it to an all French Day. Lance, who was following said that maybe I planted the foot a bit hard but it was a drive I will never forget in a car that was set up - - beautifully. Ofcourse that car, after being sold and going on the Peking to Paris rally is now laid up for a while.

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    Anyway - - COOLANTS.
    The two that I have used are the Tetracyl 90 however it is spelt and now the green Nulon which I use in Victoria.
    I assume these are still fine. The main reason we use them is to stop mainly the alloy head in a D corroding. Sometimes I hear bad reports so I’m hoping that I’m still on the right track.
    Now, I am learning about Vintage cars as recently we bought a 1929 Chrysler 65. Vintage Citroens, I imagine have cast iron heads so I’m wondering that the white oil which is used on a lathe which is water soluble would be better in these old engines. Some car people have recommended this.
    Also, the expensive Evans non water radiator coolant which has a high boiling point. - - - Is this the bees knees of all coolants.
    This subject has arisen from time to time so I probably haven’t been as observant as I should have been.
    We just came back from a trip as far as Robe in South Australia in our '54 Sunbeam Alpine. We met up with the car club in Warrnanbool for a “garage Crawl”. This was great. Ron and Easther Begelhole were there from Warrnanbool with son Andrew from Naracoorte. They were in a 1971 or so green DSpecial which was great to see among the wonderful array of cars.

    Any ideas ??? John
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    Always enjoy your posts John.
    And your spelling of the DSpecial is perfect as well.
    I see the message is getting through, now we need the heretics to abandon years of beliefs. Watch the response!

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrisson_citroen View Post
    Always enjoy your posts John.
    And your spelling of the DSpecial is perfect as well.
    I see the message is getting through, now we need the heretics to abandon years of erroneous beliefs. Share the knowledge, Watch the response!

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    Hi John,

    Nice to read your story; it would be beaut to go for Sunday drives in your area, such a lot to see in a short space of time.

    I got talking to a member of the Naracoorte Historical Vehicle Club at our local club run today (Good Ole Boys Car and Bike Club, Edenhope) and he mentioned Roy and Andrew Begelhole might be good blokes for me to talk to about my DSpecial to see what they think - I have no experience with any other DSpecials and can't tell if my fears are unfounded! Do you know if either of them is on the forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelanieYlang View Post
    Hi John,

    Nice to read your story; it would be beaut to go for Sunday drives in your area, such a lot to see in a short space of time.

    I got talking to a member of the Naracoorte Historical Vehicle Club at our local club run today (Good Ole Boys Car and Bike Club, Edenhope) and he mentioned Roy and Andrew Begelhole might be good blokes for me to talk to about my DSpecial to see what they think - I have no experience with any other DSpecials and can't tell if my fears are unfounded! Do you know if either of them is on the forum?

    Cheers,
    Melanie

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    I was going to mention the fact that your D must be one of the few in your area.Recently Michael with his '60 ID and me in a '56 Humber Hawk did a 3 day rally at Hamilton and very recently to Warrnanbool for a Garage crawl and it was exciting to see their green D lurking under a tree in lands where D's do not normally abound. Roy, Easther and son Andrew Begelhole are the nicest people you would ever meet. Andrew lives in Naracoorte and like his father, there wouldn't be much about Citroens they don't know. Andrew is on this forum so we'll have to - --make contact.

    All the best Melanie, D model Citroens can be a bit daunting but they are wonderful cars and worth the occasional headache. I agree with someone on your other post that it is fun having more than one old car but you will find that you will go back to the DS and feel - - joyful.

    John

    Andrew - - - where are you ??? this girl might be in - - distress.

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    it's been cold lately. I've just put the glycol coolant concentrate from supercheap into the machinary at my place that has cast iron engines/heads. My concern is freezing point more than corrosion with these old things. It's been minus 5 overnight over the last couple of weeks (infact we even had a hose in our house roof freeze and drown the house ... that's how cold it's been). So coolant freezing is likely a reasonable concern.

    My brother was just told by a radiator specialist that repaired the radiator in his old forklift ( i think there an old holden motor ) to run only water in it. ( weird right ). I guess they aren't worried about something living inside a shed freezing up.

    I wouldn't run fancy modern coolants in old engines. Who knows what the modern coolant might do to any old liner seals for example ... glycol or water has worked fine for the last 50->100 years, so I'm sticking with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilberthenry View Post
    I was going to mention the fact that your D must be one of the few in your area.Recently Michael with his '60 ID and me in a '56 Humber Hawk did a 3 day rally at Hamilton and very recently to Warrnanbool for a Garage crawl and it was exciting to see their green D lurking under a tree in lands where D's do not normally abound. Roy, Easther and son Andrew Begelhole are the nicest people you would ever meet. Andrew lives in Naracoorte and like his father, there wouldn't be much about Citroens they don't know. Andrew is on this forum so we'll have to - --make contact.

    All the best Melanie, D model Citroens can be a bit daunting but they are wonderful cars and worth the occasional headache. I agree with someone on your other post that it is fun having more than one old car but you will find that you will go back to the DS and feel - - joyful.

    John

    Andrew - - - where are you ??? this girl might be in - - distress.
    Hi John,

    thanks for your kind words - it certainly is daunting owning a D, particularly when falling into it unprepared! I'm sure joy will come. Perhaps you could let me know what Andrew's forum name is so I can message him?

    Melanie

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