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    I have driven the DSpecial yesterday and Melbourne put on some fantastic weather.

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    I tested the brakes when I had a driver merge onto my lane without looking. Needless to say but the brakes (with the mushroom pedal) withstood the challenge easily.

    In all honesty, this car is better than I could ever have hoped for.
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    Patches not mandatory, but can you weave a basket?

    So as not to reinvent it, more on the naming subject from here:
    DS23IE transmission cooler hose
    and a couple of pages into this:
    BVH or "normal" auto?
    Been here before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    Patches not mandatory, but can you weave a basket?

    So as not to reinvent it, more on the naming subject from here:
    DS23IE transmission cooler hose
    and a couple of pages into this:
    BVH or "normal" auto?
    Been here before.
    Yes, I remember reading through these previous threads whilst researching which 'D' to buy. I know in Germany, all DS/ID are referred to as die Goettin (the Goddess).

    I have a few wicker baskets so I can put one in the 2CV and another in the DSpecial.
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    I'm pleased, Syd, that you finally own a "DS".

    You will now learn from the experiences of others, the many quirky differences which makes every model so unique.


    D's - a point of view - - - Nov '94

    Is it the unique beauty, the absolute craziness, or just sheer enjoyment of a smooth ride that urges one into wanting to discover every facet of this intricate family of cars.

    Is it, when changing into fifth gear of a ' 74 DS23, feeling like you're on a runway, and forever believing,
    the wheels are about to --- lift off .

    Or having the satisfaction of the plush interior, comfort, and ride of a ' 71 DS21 Hydraulique on the highway,
    a gearchange so smooth that it is joy itself.

    An ID19 1961, the extra soft ride, the torque of the long stroke motor and the heavy flywheel that,
    when being wound out, is asking to be driven faster ----- ever faster.

    Or a classic ' 57 DS19 with its no fuss exterior and a strange hydraulic gear change that makes you realize that a "true" Citroen can't change any other way,
    and when, about to walk away, you are struck down by the sheer simplicity and beauty of a dashboard which would echo its way through an ever changing world and come to its final resting place in a long distant relative,
    the GS
    A 1974 DS23 Automatic Pallas making city driving - - - - sheer joy.

    Or the year 1967, when it all seemed to reach a peak.
    Chrome buttons and switches on the "slopy" dash which was to enjoy only one more year before
    "modernisation" definitely set in.
    Plush carpets, stainless steel kick plates and valences, leather and cloth which showed pride in workmanship,
    in a company which was about to conform slowly to the wants of an evermore changing society.

    Music on, and just -------- just thinking, one could drive, on and on -------- and on.

    Through the dazed eyes of an addict, John Paas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsowner84 View Post
    I have driven the DSpecial yesterday and Melbourne put on some fantastic weather.

    I tested the brakes when I had a driver merge onto my lane without looking. Needless to say but the brakes (with the mushroom pedal) withstood the challenge easily.

    In all honesty, this car is better than I could ever have hoped for.
    I told you it was a bloody one and you wouldn't be disappointed. Love her.
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    Yep ! The powered DS brake system is amazing especially so if fully reserved with good accumulator volume/pressure. I had a failure of the accumulator return line on a DS21 and had almost complete fluid loss, yet even after 45 judicious applications of the mushroom had full stopping potential... something no vacuum assisted system cannot do with a dead engine.
    Like so many DS features we can only imagine how a proper DS brake system WITH modern anti lock electronic control and skid sensing would be.I refer to a proper DS system instead of the simpler system as the real thing seemed to offer more rear bite and the self levelling seemed more effective at the rear under heavy application. Equally DS steering lights with modern light sources. The modern electriconically steered lights are good but only turn about 15 degrees. Self levelling done with electrickery works OK.

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    I'd just like to remind everyone of this thread when thinking about accumulators:
    DS/D Special - failed two piece accumulator sphere

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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    Is the wearing of elbow patches universal across the entire range..?
    Absolutely not!

    I am sure F ritzelhund will agree with me on this. If you are to break the D's into a pecking order, surely the attire has to follow suit ()
    Elbow patches and corduroy pantalons to be reserved exclusively for the DS driver with mushroom brakes,bvh -preferably Pallas-, whereas the plebs below, driving DSpecials -really tarted up ID's- should replace the elbow patches with discarded meat pies , and wear thongs and mullet haircuts.
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    Anyways, what about the DEXTRON controversy?
    DS Un jour, DS toujours !

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    Yes, M. Ha rrison_citreon, why not start off down the Dextron topic?
    A good oil thread is well overdue. It could start with spelling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    Yes, M. Ha rrison_citreon, why not start off down the Dextron topic?
    A good oil thread is well overdue. It could start with spelling.
    I'll spell strayan right when you mob can write DSpecial in one word.

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    Nobody has bitten on OLEOpneumatic yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzelhund View Post
    Nobody has bitten on OLEOpneumatic yet.

    Working on it
    DS Un jour, DS toujours !

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrisson_citroen View Post
    Working on it
    Will require more beard stroking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fritzelhund View Post
    Nobody has bitten on OLEOpneumatic yet.
    The Spanish equivalent of Hydropneumatique ? perhaps....
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    DS Un jour, DS toujours !

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    What a fortunate way to start off with Kevin's old car. I think you deserved it because of your persistence.

    You kept your search net pretty wide because had you asked specifically for a 1970 DS 21 IE non Pallas 4 speed then you could have waited a lifetime or two.

    With its mechanical pedigree and continued maintenance, may I quote Stills & Young by saying "long may you run."


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    Quote Originally Posted by donat View Post
    ... had you asked specifically for a 1970 DS 21 IE non Pallas 4 speed then you could have waited a lifetime or two. ...
    A one year only model before the 5 speed arrived. Apparently not a unicorn though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donat View Post
    What a fortunate way to start off with Kevin's old car. I think you deserved it because of your persistence.

    You kept your search net pretty wide because had you asked specifically for a 1970 DS 21 IE non Pallas 4 speed then you could have waited a lifetime or two.

    With its mechanical pedigree and continued maintenance, may I quote Stills & Young by saying "long may you run."

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    Thank you Donat. I think I am very lucky to own Kevin's DSpecial. I spoke with Lance from DS Motors and having seen how Kevin has documented and looked after the car, I am lucky to own it.

    I had tried to take all the advice in from members like yourself on AF, and hence I cast my net as wide as I could. And so far, I have been enjoying driving her everywhere I go!!!

    Regards Syd
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    Wonderful things. Practical, well sorted and well able to keep up with modern traffic and outside the city beat 'em point to point.
    And out brake just about everything else on the road too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donat View Post
    What a fortunate way to start off with Kevin's old car. I think you deserved it because of your persistence.

    You kept your search net pretty wide because had you asked specifically for a 1970 DS 21 IE non Pallas 4 speed then you could have waited a lifetime or two.

    With its mechanical pedigree and continued maintenance, may I quote Stills & Young by saying "long may you run."


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    Good evening Donat.
    I must admit that I watched Syd's WTB ad for 6 months before I sent him a PM. My car was not going to anyone whom, I thought, would not 'look after her'. No 'flip it' buyers on my horizon. It is a great 'comfort blanket' to know it has gone to such a keen Citroen 'fanatic'.

    Must catch up one day when I am down in Brisbane - I've never rode in and SM......hint....hint.
    Cheers. Kev
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    Beautiful car mate! Congratulations!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cocoelguapo View Post
    Hi all,
    I grew up in France and all DS/ID are referred to as Deese. No one makes the distinction, unless you're driving a Chaperon. Those guys are up themselves lol.
    I own a 1970 ID19 DSpecial and it has the mushroom brake, leveling and rotating headlights. I refer to it as a Deese.
    I think that you are referring to the cars built by the stylist and carrossier, Henri Chapron

    To me, my iD was an idée and all my various DS, déesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrisson_citroen View Post
    It is spelt DSpecial not D Special by the factory that made it.

    Like the French say, there is no blinder person than the one who doesn't want to see....



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    When she was parked in my driveway it was spelt differently.... I am sure Syd has not yet polished off the 'thingy' above the 'e'. Now don't start on me about my lack of french grammar/spelling skills.....but I am enjoying an Italian beer to help overcome my immense grief and delight at the change of ownership. Win/win I believe is the expression.
    Cheers. Kevin

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    Quote Originally Posted by k eeles View Post
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    When she was parked in my driveway it was spelt differently....

    Kevin, I amongst many other also admire your DSpecial. I have seen it many around shows etc... I don't really get why you say it is spelt differently in your driveway. The only difference I find is the "accent aigu" the little line over the "e". It is still a "e" and the line is only there to change the sound it makes when pronounced. Can't type this e with an Anglo-Saxon keyboard.....
    I have been stroking my beard a few times over the fact that the badge is way too high on the boot lid, and I think the appearance would be further improved by placing it correctly.
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    It is a fine looking car Kevin!

    The pictures suggest beautiful panel alignment-something not commonly seen.
    I have a DS 23 same body colour.
    Hope to see you at the next all French Day!
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