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    Hi all,

    We are trying to find an extra light switch to add to the centre dashboard display panel for the newly mounted driving lights, does anyone have a spare available? We were going to mount a chrome toggle switch, but would of course prefer one to match.

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    You can operate them through relays from the existing (turning) driving lights. These are activated by pushing the light switch in ( from memory ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelanieYlang View Post
    Hi all,

    We are trying to find an extra light switch to add to the centre dashboard display panel for the newly mounted driving lights, does anyone have a spare available? We were going to mount a chrome toggle switch, but would of course prefer one to match.

    Cheers,
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    Would this suit Melanie? If it's any good to you it's yours, PM me your address and I'll post it a Monday.
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    Thanks to the kindness of Dave, a switch has been organised 😀👍🍻

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    It is very probable that the current drawn by your driving lights exceeds the switch rating as a precaution fit a relay to handle the current better that than premature switch failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydrac View Post
    Hi,
    It is very probable that the current drawn by your driving lights exceeds the switch rating as a precaution fit a relay to handle the current better that than premature switch failure.
    Thanks Hydrac, the man about the house had that planned 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelanieYlang View Post
    Thanks Hydrac, the man about the house had that planned ��

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    You probably have this covered too, your axillary lights will need to be wired via high beam, i.e. only operate with high beam and not independent.

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    Thanks Chris, Paul says yep 👍

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    Hey, Don't be too sure about the current required - they might be LED driving lights!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken W View Post
    Hey, Don't be too sure about the current required - they might be LED driving lights!

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    Don't think that's an issue, Ken, they're old-school driving lights!

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    Hi Melanie

    The main driving lights on the DS were switched from the main stalk - there are the normal two high/low beam positions and then to activate the inner driving lights one pushes the stalk in. Only works on high beam, so it is legal.

    Should this still be working on your DS you may not need an extra switch, unless you want to be able to switch the second set independently.

    The switches wear and the first thing to go is often the driving light switching. I looked hard for a replacement a couple of years ago and Der Franzose and the usual suspects didn't have one that did this, but it might be worth checking whether yours is behaving, as it opens up options for making it all a bit neater and easier to drive.

    As always: relays , relays, relays!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Watkins View Post
    Hi Melanie

    The main driving lights on the DS were switched from the main stalk - there are the normal two high/low beam positions and then to activate the inner driving lights one pushes the stalk in. Only works on high beam, so it is legal.

    Should this still be working on your DS you may not need an extra switch, unless you want to be able to switch the second set independently.

    The switches wear and the first thing to go is often the driving light switching. I looked hard for a replacement a couple of years ago and Der Franzose and the usual suspects didn't have one that did this, but it might be worth checking whether yours is behaving, as it opens up options for making it all a bit neater and easier to drive.

    As always: relays , relays, relays!

    Best Wishes

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    Hi Andrew,

    Yes we wanted to be able to isolate the driving lights, so Paul has installed a relay to be hooked up to the dashboard switch when it arrives, and all the lights are going on and off via the stalk like they are supposed to. Winning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Watkins View Post
    Hi Melanie

    The main driving lights on the DS were switched from the main stalk - there are the normal two high/low beam positions and then to activate the inner driving lights one pushes the stalk in. Only works on high beam, so it is legal.

    Should this still be working on your DS you may not need an extra switch, unless you want to be able to switch the second set independently.

    The switches wear and the first thing to go is often the driving light switching. I looked hard for a replacement a couple of years ago and Der Franzose and the usual suspects didn't have one that did this, but it might be worth checking whether yours is behaving, as it opens up options for making it all a bit neater and easier to drive.

    As always: relays , relays, relays!

    Best Wishes

    Andrew
    Andrew, reading this again I wonder if you mean to push the stalk in towards the steering column? This I have not tried yet.

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    Yes, Melanie, push the headlight stalk in towards the steering column to switch the turning headlights on and off.

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    I'll give that a try next visit! Thanks.

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    Only works when on high beam

    What I don't know is whether it can easily be fixed if not behaving - mine was on a car that was daily driver, so I couldn't reduce it to 1000 pieces for any length of time finding out and then reducing it to 998 before putting it back and trying to make it work! . Spent the time searching the world for replacement instead.

    There will undoubtedly be people on the forum who do know

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    Hopefully you will find that your later car has the push-in function Melanie - but be aware that some did not have this by design.

    I once had a 1969 ID 19B basic 'Confort' model. (So the forerunner to the 'D Special introduced in 1970). It had manual steering and fixed lights. Those were swapped outso that it had power steering and the swivelling lights, but I also recall that i had to change the light stalk. I think this was because mine did not have the "push-in" function to operate the second set of lights. I've still got the old stalk somewhere in box. i will have to go and have a look.
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    Mystery solved. I don't have the extra lights and always wondered why that stalk had a 'push in' function...

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    You can operate them through relays from the existing (turning) driving lights. These are activated by pushing the light switch in ( from memory ).

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    Australian DSpecials were pretty highly specced. Power steering, turning headlights, DS-type trolley brake valve ...

    I never thought I would say this but, having put it in those terms, with specs like that why would you need a DS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vincenzo View Post
    Mystery solved. I don't have the extra lights and always wondered why that stalk had a 'push in' function...
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    Do you literally mean your car has two headlights and two blank pods where the long range lamps would be? Melanie also seemed to suggest this when she said she was having driving lamps fitted?

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    I got the wrong end of the stick, sort of. I originally thought the accessory fog lights were being referred to. My rotating inner lamps turn on when I turn the stalk onto high. I don't think pushing the stalk towards the binnacle does anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Budge View Post
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    Do you literally mean your car has two headlights and two blank pods where the long range lamps would be? Melanie also seemed to suggest this when she said she was having driving lamps fitted?

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    Melanie, if you have decent reflectors on the existing headlights, and you set up the aim correctly (including pointing the turning headlights straight ahead), you might find the existing lights are good enough. The turning headlights are already long range driving lights.

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    Daphne does indeed have a working push-in switch, which turns off the turning headlights. I just thought that full power was how the headlights are supposed to be - why wouldn't you use them like that? Why turn off the driving lights?

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    Low beam, high beam, high beam + driving lights.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuey View Post
    Low beam, high beam, high beam + driving lights.
    Well sure, but why turn off the driving lights ever, if you have to dip them for incoming traffic anyway?
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