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    Icon5 85 cx 2500 auto failure to proceed

    Curious drama with the cx safari driven out of garage washed
    Attempt to start to put back into garage first soliniode chattering as if battery low then nothing sound of fuel pump and click of relay but no starter action at all . Would it be a failed relay or stuck soliniode
    Which relay . I know from memory it would be one under the plastic cover left hand front corner under air horns but Te wiring on these s1 cx's is such a horses arse that it is hard to tell
    Thank god this did not happen out on the road at a petrol station or similar at least it is sitting in a safe place although in the baking sun
    All suggestions as to where to look for the problem greatly appreciated
    I should of left the old whale dusty in the shed

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    follow the wire up from the starter ( beside the battery), you should have the big thick starter cable.... the thin wire is the starter soleniod. There is good fortune that there is a connector in this wire ***right beside*** the battery terminal. So pull it apart and smack the wire to the '+' terminal. If you don't get the engine cranking, you have starter issues (fun with a slugomatic gearbox ).

    Oh make sure it's not in gear ... and don't run yourself over!
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    Thanks Shane I take it that the wire you are talking about is the red one with the daggy plastic connector
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    Thanks Shane I assume the solenoid wire is the red one with the daggy plastic connector that looks like it's been tapped onto the battery many times before
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    Remove the battery terminals and given them s good clean. It could be a bad contact...worth a try...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARCHRIVAL View Post
    Thanks Shane I assume the solenoid wire is the red one with the daggy plastic connector that looks like it's been tapped onto the battery many times before
    Yeah it's right there ... Probably a crappy plastic connector. There will only be two wires coming up from the starter. One is the big cable, the other the solenoid cable.

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    Well the safari is still causing grief sometimes staring other times not .
    Interestingly when the car will not engage the starter motor the fuel pump continues to run when the starter engages the fuel pump stops and there is an audible click when ignition is turned on . Before ripping out the starter motor could this be big blue . I have removed the relay and looking to buy a replacement ?
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    big blue powers the fuel pump and injectors. It is a tachometric relay. For starting purposes, if the fuel pump runs ... big blue is ok (it would be suspect if the car started, then stopped as soon as you let the key off).

    check the alternator->starter->battery wiring (infact replace it, there is no real cost involved), and clean the earth point above the battery.

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    It is strange because when the car is going to turnover there seems to be a different sequence of cutting in of relays or switching , if the car is not going to turn over the fuel pump keeps running as long as the key is turned to run if the car is going to start the pump primes up and stops there is another click and when the key is turned to start the car turns over and more than not starts , as the cold start idle injector seems a bit dodgy it needs to be feathered for 30 seconds then the it idles smooth . Odd indeed
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    Back to Shane's recommendations and check key wiring and clean all terminals I'd suggest. Starting with the battery ones....
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    Hey Archival,
    if it's been sitting around for some time, not being driven daily, it's probably a very low battery. Do all the usual things, clean all the wiring contacts, battery contacts, and give the battery a good charge. Ignition switch contacts can also cause havoc. One thing which helps, if you're not driving it often, disconnect the battery, one terminal, when not using the car for long periods.
    Cheers...

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