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    I have purchased a non running DS and need to get it from Byron bay to Sydney.

    Ideally I would like a car transport company to transport this but am mindful of potential damage.

    So my questions:
    Is their a procedure to raise and lock the suspension manually?
    Is their a tow point at the front of the car or something that is best to use?
    Has anyone recomendations on good transport companies?

    Thanks
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    No to the above... Whatever you do, DO NOT put bits of wood down the suspension cylinders!!
    The front suspension arms are the only real 'towing' point.
    A decent tilt-tray operator should not have any difficulty with a DS. If they look like they are making a hash of it, stop them and get someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arekisir View Post
    Hi all,

    I have purchased a non running DS and need to get it from Byron bay to Sydney.

    Ideally I would like a car transport company to transport this but am mindful of potential damage.

    So my questions:
    Is their a procedure to raise and lock the suspension manually?
    Is their a tow point at the front of the car or something that is best to use?
    Has anyone recomendations on good transport companies?

    Thanks
    Alex
    Just had my DS Safari moved from Nimbin to Melb (via RACV total care)...don't ask
    despite warning the freight company to wait for the suspension to rise they didn't and tore off the entire exhaust...easily fixed thankfully
    you can get the D to height by having nylon round blocks put inside the suspension cylinders...this means removing the spheres...so you need someone on the ground to do this for you
    someone on her will advise dimensions I'm sure...
    At the minimum you need a flat tray to drag on and bring straight to Melb without on and off at depots...
    Try U Ship where you can ask for quotes..
    good luck
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    If you can't do it yourself. Get a flat tray to move it. Ask around the hotrod guys, they will have someone good that owns a very low angle loading flat tray.

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    move it yourself Alex or try and find a towie with a tilt car trailer as opposed to a tilt tray, theres a few one or 2 man transport operators that do speciality work so at the very least if the trailer tilts thats half the problem solved with suspension down
    heres some pics in case you do it yourself, straight forward even without a tilt trailer as long as you chock all the wheels

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    Quote Originally Posted by levit8 View Post
    move it yourself Alex or try and find a towie with a tilt car trailer as opposed to a tilt tray, theres a few one or 2 man transport operators that do speciality work so at the very least if the trailer tilts thats half the problem solved with suspension down
    heres some pics in case you do it yourself, straight forward even without a tilt trailer as long as you chock all the wheels

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    NNNNNNNOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ..... never, ever, ever, ever .... not for any reason load a DS or CX on a trailer backwards. It's downright terrifying and dangerous. You'll not manage 30km/h without the trailer walking you all over the road!!! If you towcar is light, you'll probably have the back wheels dangling off the ground.

    This is how I shift cars with a car trailer too. Allow the nose of it to lift so you have a dead level low angle ramp to climb. you need to climb up to get to the winch if it lifts high enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arekisir View Post

    Is their a procedure to raise and lock the suspension manually?
    If it's got hydraulic fluid in it, you can probably raise it with an electric drill and a flexible shaft on the HP pump nut.
    It doesn't matter which way you turn it either, it will still pump, just loosen the belts ;∑)

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    and whichever technique you use.... leave the drivers window down enough to get to the steering.... as the flat - to - the -ground car goes onto the trailer the doors become trapped in the trailer sides and you can't get inside anymore.
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    Hi guys thanks for replies.

    Managed to collect the car on a rented trailer with suspension left in settled state.

    After checking the tyre pressure we chocked the trailer and decoupled it from the car - but left safety chains on.

    This allowed the front of the trailer to raise and made the ramp angle more favorable.

    We also used small bits of wood to raise areas required while loading.

    Worked a great. The tie down hook longer than the loading. The drive from Sydney to Byron and return have a good chance to catch up with a good friend.

    Home now and in position for the fun part - getting it running.
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    Hi guys thanks for replies.

    Managed to collect the car on a rented trailer with suspension left in settled state.

    After checking the tyre pressure we chocked the trailer and decoupled it from the car - but left safety chains on.

    This allowed the front of the trailer to raise and made the ramp angle more favorable.

    We also used small bits of wood to raise areas required while loading.

    Worked a great. The tie down hook longer than the loading. The drive from Sydney to Byron and return have a good chance to catch up with a good friend.

    Home now and in position for the fun part - getting it running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arekisir View Post
    Hi guys thanks for replies.

    Managed to collect the car on a rented trailer with suspension left in settled state.

    After checking the tyre pressure we chocked the trailer and decoupled it from the car - but left safety chains on.

    This allowed the front of the trailer to raise and made the ramp angle more favorable.

    We also used small bits of wood to raise areas required while loading.

    Worked a great. The tie down hook longer than the loading. The drive from Sydney to Byron and return have a good chance to catch up with a good friend.

    Home now and in position for the fun part - getting it running.
    Sounds like fun You'll probably be suprised to find the hydraulics just work if there is LHM in there!

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    NNNNNNNOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ..... never, ever, ever, ever .... not for any reason load a DS or CX on a trailer backwards. It's downright terrifying and dangerous. You'll not manage 30km/h without the trailer walking you all over the road!!! If you towcar is light, you'll probably have the back wheels dangling off the ground.
    just for the record Shane i towed that one in the pic about 150 kms, loaded it backwards as had no other option due to its location and access but had no dramas towing home sitting on 80 kms behind a toyota hiace commuter bus but would agree that facing forward is preferred option for weight distribution but other way works (just in case)

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    I think the issue described by Shane is this one?

    cool demo of trailer loading - GIF on Imgur

    Behind your tow vehicle at low speed you would not have this issue.

    Alex

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    Quote Originally Posted by levit8 View Post
    just for the record Shane i towed that one in the pic about 150 kms, loaded it backwards as had no other option due to its location and access but had no dramas towing home sitting on 80 kms behind a toyota hiace commuter bus but would agree that facing forward is preferred option for weight distribution but other way works (just in case)
    yeah I've done it before .. I just wanted to move the car across town ... and could only load it backwards. It started walking all over the road at about 20km/h CX's are massively nose heavy, you almost have the back wheels of the tow car of the ground if you load them onto a trailer backwards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arekisir View Post
    I think the issue described by Shane is this one?

    cool demo of trailer loading - GIF on Imgur

    Behind your tow vehicle at low speed you would not have this issue.



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    Very good test! Now I know what not to do when I tow something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caparobertsan View Post
    Very good test! Now I know what not to do when I tow something.
    Yeah, make sure no one's put one of those red discs in the arse end of your trailer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arekisir View Post
    I think the issue described by Shane is this one?

    cool demo of trailer loading - GIF on Imgur

    Behind your tow vehicle at low speed you would not have this issue.

    Alex
    That is a great video. In this example much better to learn via education than experience. Like Shane, I have had the tail wagging the dog. One only does it once.
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