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    Ok, I had to give up. The bloody whitewall inserts have been driving me crazy. Every weekend the stains are back and are starting to look grubby.... So today I bit the bullet (reluctantly I must admit... I do still like the look) and pulled them out.

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    More a close up of the marks. And almost impossible to remove...

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    So now the car looks boring I find. Standard. In the box... And that's not really me I was to drive a design goddess, not some French poodle.....

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    A sad day....

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    Anyway, at least the car still drives and that's what it is all about....

    the fabric for my back seats has also finally arrived, so next week I should be able to drop the car off and get it finished. Carpet and rear seats will make it more livable and then the four of us can go on trips!

    By the way Chris (or else) - does anyone know where my resto blog went? It dropped off the website and I can't find it in completed restos either. Yes, the car is almost done, but I might add more comments as I go....

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    Quite frankly, I don't like add on white walls. They chafe the side walls of the tyre as well as looking cheap and nasty. You have a beautiful car-----looks fabulous! Why gild the lily?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bleudanube View Post
    Ok, I had to give up. The bloody whitewall inserts have been driving me crazy. Every weekend the stains are back and are starting to look grubby.... So today I bit the bullet (reluctantly I must admit... I do still like the look) and pulled them out.

    By the way Chris (or else) - does anyone know where my resto blog went? It dropped off the website and I can't find it in completed restos either. Yes, the car is almost done, but I might add more comments as I go....

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    Your resto thread >> http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/res...ml#post1460622 <<

    Shame about the whitewalls, I really liked them

    Actually I don't mind whitewalls but a much finer line, if I can be honest the ones you have/had were a bit over the top. All comes down to personal taste, and my opinion is probably informed by how I remember the cars back in the 70's. . .

    Looks like the Nankang Retro do a nice fine whitewall but so far only in 165 15 at this time.
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    " So now the car looks boring I find. Standard. In the box... And that's not really me I was to drive a design goddess, not some French poodle....."

    Nice car anyway! But I know how you feel, and I also think the Ds is better served in its Pallas guise. I know it is frowned upon by the purists, but why not add a bit of Pallas trim to your car to make YOU feel good.....When I was a teenager and new DS were all around, lots of owners would customise their cars with options and accessories, so why not now ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBlood View Post
    Your resto thread >> http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/res...ml#post1460622 <<

    Shame about the whitewalls, I really liked them

    Actually I don't mind whitewalls but a much finer line, if I can be honest the ones you have/had were a bit over the top. All comes down to personal taste, and my opinion is probably informed by how I remember the cars back in the 70's. . .

    Looks like the Nankang Retro do a nice fine whitewall but so far only in 165 15 at this time.
    Nankang 165R15 Retro White Side Wall - Antique Tyres

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    I'm with you Chris, only had one set of whitewalls on a car way back when replacement tyres were hard to get in the 50's and all I could buy was some whitewall US tyres with the thin whitewalls as part of the tyre, loved them on my car of that time, but when they wore out/retired injured I could not get replacements so I tried some of the whitewall inserts, like those and the damn things wrinkled and used to flap and yes got incredibly stained in service for the short time I had them fitted - don't think I ever took a photograph of them (or the original thin line ones) That latter experience put me of whitewalls forever!!

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    To each their own flavour ...

    Q: Are whitewalls a French / European thing or American?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenfuego View Post
    I'm with you Chris, only had one set of whitewalls on a car way back when replacement tyres were hard to get in the 50's and all I could buy was some whitewall US tyres with the thin whitewalls as part of the tyre,
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    White walls are like spats for shoes, and nobody wears those anymore, and if you did unless you are considerably good looking you may well feel a bit conspicuous.
    The next thing was vinyl roofs which are like a toupee and nobody....
    I do think white walls (and vinyl roofs) look cool on cars in period photos, like for instance the 1955 motor show DS - it is part of the allure. I would think that the cut off point for white walls would be about the early 60's. The cut off point for toupee's? maybe when you had some hair.
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    So... as long as I have hair, my orig vinyl roof meets with your approval? Just checking... ;-)
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    for what its worth Sven I like your car better without the whitewalls! A blue roof would make it perfect! You don't have to worry about cleaning those whitwalls now do you? : )

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleudanube View Post
    Ok, I had to give up. The bloody whitewall inserts have been driving me crazy. Every weekend the stains are back and are starting to look grubby.... So today I bit the bullet (reluctantly I must admit... I do still like the look) and pulled them out.

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    So now the car looks boring I find. Standard. In the box... And that's not really me I was to drive a design goddess, not some French poodle.....

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    Anyway, at least the car still drives and that's what it is all about....

    the fabric for my back seats has also finally arrived, so next week I should be able to drop the car off and get it finished. Carpet and rear seats will make it more livable and then the four of us can go on trips!

    By the way Chris (or else) - does anyone know where my resto blog went? It dropped off the website and I can't find it in completed restos either. Yes, the car is almost done, but I might add more comments as I go....

    Sven
    Looks so much better without

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    I also think it looks fantastic without the whitewalls Sven. Don't know for sure or why but I always associate whitewalls with American cars rather than European. Regardless, the blue with white roof is very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bleudanube View Post
    Ok, I had to give up. The bloody whitewall inserts have been driving me crazy. Every weekend the stains are back and are starting to look grubby.... So today I bit the bullet (reluctantly I must admit... I do still like the look) and pulled them out.

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    So now the car looks boring I find. Standard. In the box... And that's not really me I was to drive a design goddess, not some French poodle.....

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    A sad day....

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    Anyway, at least the car still drives and that's what it is all about....

    the fabric for my back seats has also finally arrived, so next week I should be able to drop the car off and get it finished. Carpet and rear seats will make it more livable and then the four of us can go on trips!

    By the way Chris (or else) - does anyone know where my resto blog went? It dropped off the website and I can't find it in completed restos either. Yes, the car is almost done, but I might add more comments as I go....

    Sven
    I might have shared this "secret" before, however, If its a proper painted/coloured rubber whitewall trim the time honoured professional Cheat is to use a little "JIF" (aka "CIF" or 'Vim") cream cleanser and a piece of damp clean toweling to clean and buff all whitewall trims. Can also use simple bicarbonate soda paste (it pre dates the 1960s domestic ready made cream/paste cleansers) if the surfactants are a concern (JIF can subs up like crazy !).

    This needs doing regularly as they (including unpainted tyre rubber) attract lots of road grime that goes unnoticed on an all black tyre. The more whitewall you have the quicker they get road dirty...

    The 'original recipe' was to use saddle soap / parafin wax for all leather and rubber. I use nothing but boot polish on black tyres as this also feeds the oils in the rubber.

    I was taught this nearly 30 years ago by very old men who were driving in the late 1920s, taking over from the horse n carriage drivers.

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    Thanks for all the "encouragement" and cheers for removing the pesky inserts. As mentioned before, I tried JIF, degreaser, soap, wonder sponges... Nothing worked.
    But, am over them already. Have been driving the car and I am not missing the flapping noise from the inserts. Am getting used to black tyres quickly. All good. Car is off to the trimmer on Monday finally to finish the back seat and carpets. Then it is done!

    Sven
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