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    Default Universal Brake caliper wind back tool.

    Just found this, only about $12.00 on EBAY including postage. You just use you socket set ratchet and extension to use it. Looks like a great idea to me.
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    They probably have a place, but I'd urge you look hard at the multipiece kit AllenM linked to the other day. A screaming bargain; does what the cube does but a little easier on hands.

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    A grinder tool will turn the calipers too. I found just turning them wouldnt' work on the 407 and ended up buying the universal piston retraction tool the turns and pushes the piston in at the same time.

    Anyone is the ballarat area is welcome to borrow it if they send me a PM.

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    I just use a small vice or a clamp or whatever's lying around, plus some elbow grease and swear words.

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    If you are buying a kit of fittings (which are worth having and not at all expensive), get one with left and right threaded tools. Some models have pistons that turn in opposite directions, while some turn the same way. Make sure you know which way you need to turn each piston to avoid a larger problem.

    A vice or clamp is fine on a DS, CX, GS etc. with a simple push piston, but Xantia/XM/C5 etc. must be turned to retract them.

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    I have retracted XM disc brake pistons without a fancy tool, but cannot remember exactly how I turned them. Maybe with a screwdriver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    I just use a small vice or a clamp or whatever's lying around, plus some elbow grease and swear words.

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    There are ALWAYS swear words, they are french cars after all! Merde is a frequent utterance.
    Less 'Blind Fury' and more 'Technique' is the best way.

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    The cube tool is available from most tool shops - you don't need eBay. There is one here rarely looked for, because they aren't universal. Some cars don't fit. I now use the "proper" tool, though I only have a Citroen bit at this point.

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    One more time:

    Giantz Universal Disc Brake Caliper Piston Rewind Tool KIT SET Auto Windback CAR | eBay

    My Sealey branded kit looks identical and it cost several times this sum.
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    Those ridiculously cheap red plastic boxes have taken over automotive tooldom. They are everywhere. Are they any good?

    I have been looking at pilot bearing pullers. The choice seems to be between one in a red blow moulded box for about $35 or one in a T&E branded tin box that looks almost the same for about 10 times the price. (Or if I had a rush of blood to the head, a set of Stahlwille ones for about 20 times the price.)

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    You can get a Toledo pilot bearing puller for under $60 from all the usual suspects. I'd suggest getting a Stahlwille is on a par with buying a restoration DS.

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    How many times will you do the job and will it last that long or do you need to spend 10 or 20 times the cost? Even the same red boxes are sold at staggeringly different prices. Some of the red boxed stuff is total rubbish, but others will do the job, provided the conditions are not too arduous and you don't expect too much from them. The cheapie red box pipe expander set is very useful for tidying up exhaust pipe ends, if not expanding pipe that is reasonably stiff. I needed a particular sump plug socket and bought a very inexpensive set, which might as well have been made of cheese as it twisted as soon as I used it. At least it worked for that oil change. The red box brake piston retractor kit is perfectly adequate for DIY use. If you will use it a lot or in difficult situations, buy better items. It's probably better to buy items of known good quality where they could cause injury if they suddenly let go or fail.

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    Fortunately, my mechanic has all the appropriate tools. I just point and pay. It keeps my relationship with Citroen on a bearable level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post


    One more time:

    Giantz Universal Disc Brake Caliper Piston Rewind Tool KIT SET Auto Windback CAR | eBay

    My Sealey branded kit looks identical and it cost several times this sum.
    My set is similar to that. It works very well. lets be honest, there isn't a lot of force involved in any of this

    I've managed to wind BX/XM/Xantia springs back no problems. I couldn't get the 407/C5 mongrels to retract. Yes I could turn them, but they wouldn't retract while I was doing so.


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    Were you rotating them the right way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post
    Were you rotating them the right way?
    Yep, it worked as soon as I had the tool that pushes the piston back as you turn it.

    Oh, I mean I managed the XM/BX/Xantia/etc WITHOUT any caliper rewind tools.

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    Ah. Understand you now!

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    Hi

    I have a brand new one like the one in the original post sitting on the shelf, unfortunately it's too big to fit in 505 rear calipers, I would be happy to sell it if any one is interested, pm to discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    I have retracted XM disc brake pistons without a fancy tool, but cannot remember exactly how I turned them. Maybe with a screwdriver.

    Roger
    Roger if it was the front pistons then you may have used my tried and tested method:

    Piece of thick cloth across the face of the piston end with enough to cover whole cylinder. Largish socket (I think 23mm) and jam it over the cloth and wind in with your ratchet while pushing.
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    Well there you go. Everyone has their own way of getting the job done. I'll give this little tool a go when the time comes. If I can't get it to work properly I'll post a report about it here.
    On my workmates C5 , and without a suitable tool, we removed the rotors and I took off the lip with an angle grinder. Everything went back together with no problem. If he gets through his RWC all good, if not we will replace the rotors and wind the pistons back.

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