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    A used car dealer friend told me today, he had traded Citroen 'Goddess' some years ago and when he was preparing it for resale found an inch thick layer of sand under the floor carpet, front and rear.
    He was assured by someone who knows these things, it should be there, so built it up evenly and left it there.
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    19.5 days too late with this one!
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    Could be a "variant ...."

    The old foam underlay tended to crumble into something that resembles sand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garyk View Post
    Could be a "variant ...."

    The old foam underlay tended to crumble into something that resembles sand.
    I did consider this, but decided that in order to create an inch of "sand" you would need about 6 inches of foam under the carpet.

    Or maybe it was very good noise suppression....

    Or maybe it was anti roll ballast......

    Or maybe the owner would take her cats for long journeys..... without stopping!

    Or maybe It was under floor heating with copper tubes running engine coolant through it.....?

    Whatever the reason..... I'm prepared to go out on a limb here, and state my strongly held opinion,
    that it was not a factory original feature.
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    80-odd kilograms of sand down low, it might have a positive effect on the handling. We all know the difference a full tank vs empty makes, and that's slightly less well-positioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post
    80-odd kilograms of sand down low, it might have a positive effect on the handling. We all know the difference a full tank vs empty makes, and that's slightly less well-positioned.
    Yes, there was a D Safari owner in the NSW club about 20 years ago who always had 40kg of (bagged) cement in the boot floor, for exactly that reason.
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    A BX will always ride better with some weight on board. I recommend driver, passenger, luggage for 10 days away and progressively adding weight. The best measure of weight to add is a carton. As in bottles, wine, carton of. After folding the rear seat and some repacking you will find you can comfortably add six cartons at least.

    Of course if you're in your DS then you already have a handy wine carrying location. Three cartons across the rear floor fit just nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    Or maybe It was under floor heating with copper tubes running engine coolant through it.....?
    This was done with a DS running for very many years as a taxi in Oslo. Kept the floors and carpets dry and the cabin comfy.
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    After all, you put a 40kg bag of cement in the very front of an R10 boot
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    my C5 safari has about 20 kgs of sand, lolly wrappers, crumbs, dog hair and asortd other unidentified gunk under the rear seat and carpet on the back floor after 13 years so expect 40 years will triple that.
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    The current owner of my 2CV (which I'm now selling again) had developed a very healthy amount of sand, leaves and dust under the floor mats, but I removed it because it was slowing the car down.
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    In the same vane as a St Christopher medals on the dash protects from having a crash. Mind over matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moulton2speed View Post
    In the same vane as a St Christopher medals on the dash protects from having a crash. Mind over matter?
    Yes, If you don't mind, it doesn't matter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IE23 View Post
    The current owner of my 2CV (which I'm now selling again) had developed a very healthy amount of sand, leaves and dust under the floor mats, but I removed it because it was slowing the car down.
    How could you tell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deesse View Post
    my C5 safari has about 20 kgs of sand, lolly wrappers, crumbs, dog hair and asortd other unidentified gunk under the rear seat and carpet on the back floor after 13 years so expect 40 years will triple that.
    cheers Tony
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrodelectric View Post
    I can top that. My first R5, a '78 built in 12/77. I pulled the interior apart for a deep clean, and found a couple dozen pull tops for wine bottles. embedded in the sound deadening, ex-factory.
    That should end this post. No-one can top that story!
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    ...and a strong smell of cheese when the carpet was lifted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    That should end this post. No-one can top that story!
    I think so....
    A neighbour of mine, they are all farmers... bought a brand new Belarus tractor.... a big 220hp, dual wheels all round....

    After a couple of months work it got a flat tyre.... They are big wheels, so he got the mobile tyre bloke from town to come out to remove it and find the problem.

    Inside they found a 4' long heavy duty Russian tyre lever, that had eventually managed to wedge itself in a way to create a puncture from the inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    I think so....
    A neighbour of mine, they are all farmers... bought a brand new Belarus tractor.... a big 220hp, dual wheels all round....

    After a couple of months work it got a flat tyre.... They are big wheels, so he got the mobile tyre bloke from town to come out to remove it and find the problem.

    Inside they found a 4' long heavy duty Russian tyre lever, that had eventually managed to wedge itself in a way to create a puncture from the inside.
    Yep- that tops mine by a long way.

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    About a century ago I bought a 1952 Hillman sedan off a bloke who lived alongside Cabbage tree creek in Brizzie. Great original condition, much faded original paint and no rust, Later it developed a water leak into the boot. Removed the trim to clean out the vents and found both wells between the boot floor and the mudguard packed with soldier crab shells, hundreds of them. All behind the cardboard trim. Submarine car maybe? Never showed any sign of rust while I owned it.

    Once doing a warranty job on a Cummins truck engine I found a big flat blade screw driver in the sump. The engine was almost new. Still got the driver but it's so big I've never found a use for the ugly thing.

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    Still got the driver but it's so big I've never found a use for the ugly thing.

    Wrong on so manny levels...

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    I think "Trading Estate" has a similar story, about a ball pein hammer found in the engine bay of one of the Raid cars, halfway around the 5,000km Raid. I understand it (the hammer) had been missing for a few months, and was found when the driver of the car was looking for an unusual rattle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceenine View Post
    After all, you put a 40kg bag of cement in the very front of an R10 boot
    A mate in Toukley NSW carried two solid besser blocks in the front of his R10, reckons it worked well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrodelectric View Post
    I can top that. My first R5, a '78 built in 12/77. I pulled the interior apart for a deep clean, and found a couple dozen pull tops for wine bottles. embedded in the sound deadening, ex-factory.
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