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    We've sold our excellent Xantia, with an almost unblemished record of reliability. Not one drip of LHM in 20 years. Nothing ever changed except oils, filters, coolant and spheres and one failed heater radiator (ugh).

    Terribly unreliable, these complicated French cars.

    It has gone to Sydney, so the new owner of 9GM 856 might end up posting here.

    So, all the Citroen focus is now on the CX.

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    Two (2) questions.
    Was it new on possession and how many K's.
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    PS: 3rd question, what did you sell it for?



    Quote Originally Posted by JohnW View Post
    We've sold our excellent Xantia, with an almost unblemished record of reliability. Not one drip of LHM in 20 years. Nothing ever changed except oils, filters, coolant and spheres and one failed heater radiator (ugh).

    Terribly unreliable, these complicated French cars.

    It has gone to Sydney, so the new owner of 9GM 856 might end up posting here.

    So, all the Citroen focus is now on the CX.

    Cheers

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    the question is ........................ WHAT HAS IT BEEN REPLACED WITH

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    Nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One!

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    Ah well. To answer in no particular order.

    1. We bought the Xantia secondhand at 6 years and 18,000 km from its first owner via a Proton dealer (yes, Proton ) where it sat unhappily on my way home from work. They dropped the price and tinted the windows the week before I showed interest. I paid $19,000 approximately for essentially a new Xantia.

    2. We used it for 13 or 14 years with complete reliability. Lovely car, superb cruiser, would carry half a tonne of tiles or bricks and was a hatchback to boot. Forgive pun. At 20 years, we were well ahead and it was time to move on with the "main" car.

    3. We traded it in with Rod Slater's Eurocars on a much newer Renault Scenic 6-speed manual, not least because they are a good "slide into" car with tremendously clever design in many ways (not least storage space - have you tried to fit anything sensible into a Xantia glove box?) and because they have 5-star safety.

    4. At trade in, we had 99,000 km on the clock and never a drop of LHM leakage. Sale price? Debatable, as it is the difference between "asking price", always negotiable, and what we paid. I'd say we got $1,000 to $1,500 realistically and I didn't need to spend my (non-existent) time trying to sell it. Good value after 13-14 years' good use.

    I really wasn't much attracted by a C5, good as they can be no doubt.

    We hope to run the CX for years to come. A real Citroen. Yes, I covet a red SM. But.......

    And, our record is that we've never bought a non-French car. Ever....

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    everyone missed that was an SM with a V8 maserati fitted too
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    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    everyone missed that was an SM with a V8 maserati fitted too
    It only looks like 3 plug leads to the exposed bank. You sure? Nice red!
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    Where are the last two cylinders? In the boot?

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    did I cut 'n' paste the wrong "cut-away" car ?





    that is how they fitted the extra 2 cylinders in

    counting the number of carbies is the give-away
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    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

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    Well I too can vouch for the Xantia's reliability, ours has been the same save for a bit of a tantrum it had last year. I totally forgive the tantrum because it was all our fault when we fitted a non Citroen hydraulic hose. Ours has done a bit more work though but still a great car. Poor John has a bit of a soft spot for Renaults, so I can forgive his replacement but in our case SWMBO loves her Xantia so it is staying.
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    Xantia is reliable; 16 years of reliability. Apart from the heater core!

    Hey I like the double coil on the first SM. that's got to ensure a good spark. I'm guessing that car has been rebuilt better than new.


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    Well indeedy.

    I've owned my Activa from new (1998). It has had couple of irksome fails (like the little Y joiners and hoses) but about 98% of the work done over the years was fairly routine, common to most cars, batteries, brakes, etc. Mine now has 154K so some things are expected to be worn out / aged. The interior is virtually as new ... this Activa has very good trim (seat fabric, head lining, etc, still like new).

    It drives as well as the day I bought it. It has some generic failings (long time to pressurise) but is one of the most beautiful cars to drive, with exceptional handling and all round sharpness. I also appreciate how quiet and smooth it is. My 2005 C5 2.2HDI is like a tractor (as much as I like that car for its own character).

    Having owned (many) D's, GS's, CX's C5s .... I rate the Xantia the best built and most reliable Citroen I've owned.
    One of the reasons I chose it was following a drive in a BXGTi ... what a brute! But the Activa had a lot of the grunt and handling but with far more Citroen refinement. Not a bad mix.

    Yes, somewhat boring to look at. Is it a future "classic?" Dunno, but the Activa is a great car IMHO, not just a great Citroen.
    The 16v autos are also lovely to drive. Some of the earlier ones are not so loveable (e.g. seat comfort, performance).

    Even for a non-Citroen driver, I'd suggest the Xantia as an excellent "budget" car.

    Its kinda like the yin / yang of Citroens. So I'm still keen to own a CX. Heaven help me...

    (If you owned a BXGTi you'd just have to own a D or a CX as well).
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    I think someones dog chewed the seats in mine. Still $350 for a car I have dragged 6000km to date! 278k on the clock! What first got me onto liking xantias was seeing a wagon up close, I think they're very stylish cars : ) They have that French 'wonkiness' that translates as sophisticated!
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    On a separate tangent, due to physical inactivity I've been watching a pile of "Jay Lenno's Garage" clips on Youtube.
    (I'm sure you will all enjoy the DS segment ....)

    But what is quite striking is that he drives everything from a McLaren to 1906 steam cars ....with the rather interesting
    observation that a good car is a good car ...his 1918 (?) unrestored Cadillac is sometime is his "daily drive."He might enthuse about an expensive car like the Mercedes 600, or the Porsche 918, but the common factor is that well sorted cars, even relative cheapies, can give a lot of driving pleasure. And this extends to "old school" cars like Steve McQueens 1950's Jaguar (he loved it although it ain't one of the cheapies).

    I guess this might analogous to how a 2CV is as enjoyable as a C6?

    But if you thought that owning a Citroen is fiddly, check out the "operating procedures" and maintenance for cars like the Stanley Steamer.
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    More information on the SM V8: 1974 CitroŽn SM V8: A Mystery No More | Autoweek

    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=c...AQIGg&dpr=1.56

    And on the prototype V8 intended for the DS in 1960: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsldORDIzPk

    That would have been interesting.

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