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    Default 1960 ID19 jumping out of first gear

    Short of removing the gearbox to investigate....is there anything to check before I have it removed?
    it pops out of 1st as you are driving.....
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    Could be that the selector fork has come loose on its shaft!
    Repair would involve removing the gearbox lid. This can be done without removing the entire gearbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerrypro View Post
    Could be that the selector fork has come loose on its shaft!
    Repair would involve removing the gearbox lid. This can be done without removing the entire gearbox.
    fingers crossed....Thanks Gerry
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    Possibly worth checking that the gearchange linkage is allowing the first gear movement to fully engage the gear first.

    With the help of an Assistant this should be easily checkable. With Assistant selecting first, see if you can physically move the lever further at the gearbox end. If the gears don't fully mesh the torque will spit them back.

    Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pottsy View Post
    Possibly worth checking that the gearchange linkage is allowing the first gear movement to fully engage the gear first.

    With the help of an Assistant this should be easily checkable. With Assistant selecting first, see if you can physically move the lever further at the gearbox end. If the gears don't fully mesh the torque will spit them back.

    Just a thought.

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    Thanks Pottsy
    any pointers are appreciated...hope to cure the issue soon
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    Why not just hold the gear-shifter down with your hand to keep it from popping out? It's not like you're using first gear for longer than a few seconds seconds anyway.. Think of it as a feature/quirk with an easy workaround, rather than an "issue". Unless money's no object to throw at a 1960 vehicle.
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    My 70" VW used to pop 2 and 4 after fearing the worst and preparing to strip it I did an oil change with some good red line and it was all good again, unlikely maybe, but it's a pretty dam good result
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codman View Post
    My 70" VW used to pop 2 and 4 after fearing the worst and preparing to strip it I did an oil change with some good red line and it was all good again, unlikely maybe, but it's a pretty dam good result
    I used Redline trans oil in my Ferrari 308 GTSi...also with good results...prior to the redline you could catch the synchros out but after it was silky smooth....
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    I remember a friend's A40 would screech and rattle then pop out of first on acceleration and go straight into second occasionally!
    We used to call it the 'auto' !
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    Quote Originally Posted by pottsy View Post
    Possibly worth checking that the gearchange linkage is allowing the first gear movement to fully engage the gear first.

    With the help of an Assistant this should be easily checkable. With Assistant selecting first, see if you can physically move the lever further at the gearbox end. If the gears don't fully mesh the torque will spit them back.

    Just a thought.

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    The shift linkage has a whole bunch of little tiny plastic bushings. If they are perished, you might see what you have described. Simple things first.
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