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    Greetings all,

    I've recently had a quote from Pedders suspension for around $5,000 to replace the front and rear shock absorbers on my Citroen C5 which has travelled 70,000 km.

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    Would anyone have a suggestion for a cheaper mechanic/business that could potentially do this work? - I'm in Adelaide but travel with the car to Melbourne occasionally.

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    Welcome to Aussie Frogs (although I see you've been "lurking" for a few years ).

    Does your car have steel springs, or hydraulics? In any case you definitely need to take it to a Citroen specialist (not necessarily the dealer). This thread Citroen Parts & Service List? should give you some ideas, but note that early pages are 11 years old .

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    I'm not too sure how to respond to this.
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    That doesn't make any sense to me at all. The shock absorbers are found in the grey saucer spheres. They must be talking about the front struts which usually last the life of the car. I don't think they know what they are dealing with in your case.

    I would get a second opinion from a Citroen trained mechanic as to what work needs to be done if any. Someone local will be able to post you some mechanic options I hope.

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    There will not be a 2006 C5 with coil srprings, so there are no 'shock absorbers' in the normal sense. You have suspension cylinders/struts and a nitrogen filled 'sphere' at each corner, plus maybe another couple if it is a Hydractive+ model.
    The $5K quote means one of the following:
    1) you have misunderstood the work they are wanting to do (are we talking about rear arms and bearings?);
    2) they do not know what they are doing with this car;
    3) you have so much damage to your suspension due to impact / use of brake fluid? (it will not be age related); or
    4) they are replacing a large number of components or a few very costly items like some piping and/or the pump..

    You need more detail of what the quote is for, the symptoms and the diagnosis to know if it's fair or not.

    Seek a second opinion from a dealer or local specialist.

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    Thanks all for your comments.

    Yes, I understand now that the car actually has struts and not shock absorbers.

    I'm now in conversation with a couple of mechanics in Adelaide who are knowledgeable about Citroen suspension.

    My impression is that Pedders put this job into a 'scary/difficult' basket and priced it accordingly.

    Thanks again.

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    We Froggers have heard similar things before from the "mainstream" practitioners ... a C5 that needed a rear wheel alignment. IMPOSSIBLE.. the rear suspension is trailing arms that mount in roller bearings.

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    trailing arms
    That's the first series. Current ones have a multi-link set up. But the point is correct - you hear alarmingly inaccurate tosh about Cits from some so-called tradesmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manali View Post
    Thanks all for your comments.
    Yes, I understand now that the car actually has struts and not shock absorbers.
    I'm now in conversation with a couple of mechanics in Adelaide who are knowledgeable about Citroen suspension.
    My impression is that Pedders put this job into a 'scary/difficult' basket and priced it accordingly.
    Thanks again.
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    Hi Ross
    Now the question which springs to my mind is ; why did you ask the Pedders guys for a quote on the C5 suspension in the first place ???????????

    Was it because it was not working well in some way,
    OR you wanted a firmer sports suspension,
    OR you just had some dollars to waste ?

    I await your answer with anticipation
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    For a bit of reading, if you want some on the subject !
    http://www.citroenet.org.uk/passenge...5/c5tech1.html
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    Hi Ross,
    you need to find someone who knows Citroens and has owned several over the past 30 odd years, who knows about the unique suspension system. Have someone who knows have a look at you car. DONT go near anyone like pedders for advice.
    There is about a ZERO chance that there's anything wrong with your spheres. I bought some 10 year old ones from the wreckers for $5.00 each... and tested them... all still holding pressure ...right on SPEC... 52 bar...front and 45 rear. The original ones which came on my car are also still right on spec. The local Citroen DEALERS quoted me $850.00 each per sphere....for new ones...

    The Dealers really pray on their customers ignorance.


    Get a Citroen Car club member to check your car for you.

    cheers and good luck...

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    Thanks for that link Jaahn - useful.

    I took it to Pedders because the front passenger side suspension is 'clunking' over bumps. I had taken it to Stuart at Charles Street Auto repairs (an Adelaide Peugeot/Citroen specialist mechanic) and he recommended them. In fairness to Stuart I couldn't book it in at the Pedders branch he recommended on the day I wanted to so I took it to another Pedders branch.

    Cheers, Ross.

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    Thanks for the information George. Ross.

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    Hi Manali,
    Thanks for the reply. The most likely cause of clunks are the drop links for the roll bar. They wear out rapidly but are easily replaced. Buy them O/S or off ebay for a good price. The boots fail on the joints of the links and then they wear out. A common problem. Not many other problems should be expected at your low mileage.

    It is possible that a sphere has gone flat but not likely. Also a possibility the lower suspension control arm has a failed bush, but again not likely. There are other possibilities too of course but not likely at a low mileage, the suspension is well built. Any good mechanic should be able to do a check over for worn parts causing a clunk. It's hard to see why it was referred on. People are scared of the hydraulics but in reality they do not cause problems.
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    Another voice !! I agree with the drop links diagnosis. These are readily available on Ebay !!!

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    An update. The problem was resolved today by the Citroen dealer in Adelaide. They discovered the left hand front brake calliper had lost its lower bolt. Hence the clunking over bumps as the calliper hit the inside of the wheel rim. So, it wasn't a suspension problem after all. Thanks to everyone on this forum for their advice/opinions. I've dodged an expensive bullet at Pedders which wouldn't have resolved the issue anyway. Cheers. Ross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manali View Post
    An update. The problem was resolved today by the Citroen dealer in Adelaide. They discovered the left hand front brake calliper had lost its lower bolt. Hence the clunking over bumps as the calliper hit the inside of the wheel rim. So, it wasn't a suspension problem after all. Thanks to everyone on this forum for their advice/opinions. I've dodged an expensive bullet at Pedders which wouldn't have resolved the issue anyway. Cheers. Ross.
    Great outcome. Very strange process. You did say "I had taken it to Stuart at Charles Street Auto repairs (an Adelaide Peugeot/Citroen specialist mechanic)"? Ah well, live and learn.

    I'd be very inclined to stick with the dealer!!!!!!!!!!! I'd be very inclined to speak to high management at Pedders too - are they RAA-approved? If so, I'd speak to the RAA too. Although if I were you I might have reached the "why bother?" stage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manali View Post
    An update. The problem was resolved today by the Citroen dealer in Adelaide. They discovered the left hand front brake caliper had lost its lower bolt.

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    Cheers. Ross.

    Ahh - my Xantia (C5 predecessor) lost the upper bolt from a front caliper. Caliper dropped forward onto wheel rim and caused the wheel to lock (perhaps fortunately I was on gravel). I managed to get the car home - in reverse!!

    Obviously this was a lot easier to diagnose than a lower bolt as your caliper didn't move as much. (Just as easy to fix - my neighbour even picked up the lost bolt from the gravel road while walking her dog ). Having also had failed drop-links (on same Xantia) I would have agreed with jahn & fritzelhund's diagnosis, based on your description of the problem.

    Great that it was such an easily (& cheaply) fixed problem - a lesson to all of us to always check the basics before assuming the worst. In fact one of our esteemed Renault-owning colleagues was recently convinced (by the experts on this forum of course) that he had a significant problem - at the very least a worn/damaged drive shaft or failed engine mounts, and quite possibly a major gearbox fault. Turned out he had loose wheel nuts ...

    Cheers

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    Hi Ross
    Thanks for giving us the result, and good that it has been easily resolved

    Of course it begs the question of why you had to go to two mechanics and then the dealer to have a SIMPLE problem resolved. There is no doubt that no one took the wheel off to have a look which would be the first thing to do. That is a problem with Citroens, they scare people off when indeed they are just nuts and bolts like all other cars.

    Cheers jaahn
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaahn View Post
    Hi Ross
    Thanks for giving us the result, and good that it has been easily resolved

    Of course it begs the question of why you had to go to two mechanics and then the dealer to have a SIMPLE problem resolved. There is no doubt that no one took the wheel off to have a look which would be the first thing to do. That is a problem with Citroens, they scare people off when indeed they are just nuts and bolts like all other cars.

    Cheers jaahn


    Regretfully, sign of the times to forget the basics, complicate things and put the fear into people so that you can manipulate them.

    Son's W123 Mercedes kept cutting out when "it wanted to" to the extent that it was voluntarily put off the road due to the reliability issue because 2 garage mechanics said that the carburetor needs overhauling.

    Not cheap overhauling 175 CDT Pierburg carburetors, especially when I was not convinced that it would solve the reliability problem so we parted with our C5 until I had the time to "look at it".Replace shock absorbers on 2006 Citroen C5-img_4481.jpgReplace shock absorbers on 2006 Citroen C5-img_4482.jpg

    Last week I had the opportunity it check it out.

    Started from basics (there was fuel in the tank) by checking that fuel was getting to the fuel pump.

    Was fuel getting to the carburetor? End result was that the fuel pump had to come off as fuel was getting to the fuel pump but not getting to the carburetor.

    The diaphragm is spring loaded with a rod attached to the diaphragm and retained within the spring. This rod is operated by a pushrod coming out of the engine.

    With the spring rod retainer failing, the rod was "falling off" the pushrod intermittently - thus no fuel.

    Waiting for a new pump to arrive from Germany in order for us to get our C5 back. I'm sure the reliability of the old Merc will be restored.

    For what its worth - nothing like getting back to basics!

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    Jajea, you have me a bit confused here... one second you are talking about some Benz, the next minute it's a c5...What is it?

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    Regarding the beginning of this thread with the problem Ross was having , it might be an idea for all of us to inspect our Caliper bolts next weekend, just to make sure we are not about to lose them too.

    Cheers..
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    Quote Originally Posted by George 1/8th View Post
    Jajea, you have me a bit confused here... one second you are talking about some Benz, the next minute it's a c5...What is it?

    George 1/8,

    Back to basics with the 1984 W123 Mercedes 200 (import - 230 motors only in Australia).

    We lost (loaned) the C5 to my son until I had the opportunity to check it out before he was to have the carby refurbished.

    Best regards,

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    My son won't be getting my C5 anytime soon. He'll need his lisence first.

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