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    Default What car to buy, your thoughts opinions and suggestions, please

    I'm currently using a BX TZI as a daily driver but finding that it's a bit long in the tooth for the work I need it to do. I'm having ongoing maintenance problems that I haven't got the time fix.

    I drive all over metropolitan Melbourne with a fairly even mix of freeway and urban roads. I guess I'd do about 500kms per week. I need a car with air-con, hopefully Bluetooth and don't care whether it be auto or manual transmission. The overarching consideration is reliability.

    I'd like to stay on marque, or at least French but open to any suggestions, but I'm not a bread and butter car guy.

    I've got a maximum budget of $5,000 but would prefer to spend less.

    I'm currently thinking C4 HDI or maybe a C5.

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    307 - they're throwaway money now (sadly). Splice in a Bluetooth kit as one member recently did, and you're good to go.

    C4s are dirt cheap, but less common for parts.

    Either way I would go petrol.
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    If you follow Addo's suggestion, look at a Pug 307 XSE manual. In your price range, you get a bigger 2.0 motor and no AL4. Cit C4s tend to be 1.6 models and 2.0s are rarer. Again, go manual. Both cars are similar underneath.

    Shane will be along soon to tell you the suspension is no good, ie it's not hydraulic. They are actually sprung like every other car except a hydraulic Cit.

    At your price point you are not likely to find much under 100,000 km.

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    if you dont mind the ugly bum there's a 206cc going for dirt cheap.
    Another to good to wreck. 206cc

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    I think the best French car for your needs would be la Toyota.

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    S1 Xsara 2.0 manual. Nearly foolproof with ABS and airbags. 1.8 versions can have a suspect ECU. S2 gives you AL4 and BSI/Comm/Multiplexing, which you might not want. Early Xantia manual non-Hydractive are also OK, maybe 16 Valve, but watch the front strut tops. An early C5 petrol 4 cylinder manual (5 speed, non-Hydractive) is relatively simple and offers a lot of car for little money if you can find a decent one. All should be within your budget. Even chat with dogboy about his C5 HDi wagon if he gives up on it and it's facing the scrapper, then spend the required cash on the gearbox and you may have something reliable for some time. $5K is almost going to get you a high mile 6 speed HDi C5 these days or even a 6 speed V6 (super smooth), but expect them to need some attention.

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    what about a Megane? (cough)...

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    All excellent ideas. The Pug 307 XSE is looking very attractive. There is a big choice on Gummie & FleaBay. David's 206cc is real cheap money but too small & it's too late in life for me to become a hairdresser but thanks for the tip. Decisions, decisions.
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    Hate to sound like a vulture - but let me know when you are ready to say "au revoir" to the BX.
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    I reckon the 307 is one of the worst cars I've driven in a long time. The few I drove all seemed to pull aggressively off the road at all times. The suspension is absolutely shithouse (there is no other way to describe it). I reckon a hi-undi i30 would be a better car in every way.

    having said that ... take a look at the convertible Dave has for sale at the moment.

    I'd go a Renault Clio/Laguna myself. I reckon there suspension and seats is way better than PSA.
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    BTW:

    Have you seen this?? perfect specification .... Pitty it's not a C5 with the same drivetrain.

    2007 Peugeot 407 Sedan | Cars, Vans & Utes | Gumtree Australia Maroondah Area - Bayswater North | 1063736788

    sounds a bit suss to me ... but damn it's cheap. On ebay UK you can get a new key ordered in pre-cut to VIN for about $65aud. Anyone with a lexia can code it too the car for you ( I have one here and have coded keys in before).

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    I wouldn't consider that "cheap" in the current climate. About double what you'd ask for a quick sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post
    I wouldn't consider that "cheap" in the current climate. About double what you'd ask for a quick sale.
    It's the "ultimate" specification. 6spd manual, proper diesel ... milage isn't huge really. They are right, it *IS* $500 for a key ... plus probably a flat tray truck trip to a peugoet dealers.

    It'll also probably need a battery and cambelt. I'd be offering $1500 .... it's work it as a parts car to me for that sort of money
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    So you said it was priced well, then reckoned it to be a $1500 car. Does not compute.

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    So that 407 has no plates, quite a bit of damage, no key and is apparently pictured in a detailer's yard having just had a wholesale wash. Cover story for a repo perhaps? You'd be checking ownership, debts and history on that very carefully. Personally ... PASS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David S View Post
    So that 407 has no plates, quite a bit of damage, no key and is apparently pictured in a detailer's yard having just had a wholesale wash. Cover story for a repo perhaps? You'd be checking ownership, debts and history on that very carefully. Personally ... PASS.
    Biggest problem I see isn't visiable damge... what if the clutch is on it's last legs .... I'd take a punt.... You could stick the drivetrain into a C5 with a dead slugomatic gearbox

    I was wondering what the go was .... I reckon you've nailed it... It'll be a repo and they haven't managed to get the key from the owner.

    cheap way of getting a gearbox/cltuch/pedal assembly without importing them from the UK.... And you get a whole car with it that could be quite ok if you paid the $65 for a key and took it for a test drive ............
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    Getting a little off the original topic now ... Possibly better and less expensive to buy a statutory write-off with a decent history and guaranteed title / unencumbered if you just want a donor.

    The mechanical bolt in exercise and probably even configuring the BSI to make the C5 think it's manual would be the easier parts of the conversion. The main issue would be whether the wiring harnesses will allow it to work. In any event, the 6 speed auto is so good, very few owners would want to opt for a manual over it.
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    What about a Xantia. Get a good one for $2.5k and give it a good going over with the rest.
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    For $5000 I nice Alfa 147 can be bought, I did it, you think you get a smile driving a Cit.

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    Interesting ad that was in Gumtree. The sad story sounds like a distressed private sale, but the premises given are a bit odd - have a peek at the contents of the yard. In streetview the front yard has parked cars, but there is no sign.
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    My old C5 hid 2003 may be for sale for around that price. Sold it to a friend 4 years ago. It's in Tasi though. 80th anniversary edition ( leather seats). V good condition. Great tourer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I reckon the 307 is one of the worst cars I've driven in a long time. The few I drove all seemed to pull aggressively off the road at all times. The suspension is absolutely shithouse (there is no other way to describe it). I reckon a hi-undi i30 would be a better car in every way.

    having said that ... take a look at the convertible Dave has for sale at the moment.

    I'd go a Renault Clio/Laguna myself. I reckon there suspension and seats is way better than PSA.


    Yeah I agree.........take a look at the convertible Dave has for sale at the moment.

    Will someone please take a look at Dave's convertable......
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    Why not a Pug 406 diesel? Or a low km, if you can find one 405 diesel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg C View Post
    What about a Xantia. Get a good one for $2.5k and give it a good going over with the rest.
    If you can find a good one with not too many km, they are sensationally good value.
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