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    G'Day Folks,
    Further to my search for a low-budget Xantia (and the very helpful replies to my "Xantia auto boxes" post),
    does anyone know anything about the CT for sale on Gumtree at Kippa Ring, just north of Brisbane.

    Obviously, I'm not expecting a new car for $1k, but as I am an hour's drive out of Adelaide, it makes it difficult to assess it from here.

    Hopefully, it hasn't been flood damaged, and would be capable of being nursed the 2000km home before it went BANG!

    I feel confident to fettle it back into condition if I can get it home, but would welcome any background on this particular car, if they know it.
    97 Citroen xantia ct turbo ,cheap car $1000 ONO | Cars, Vans & Utes | Gumtree Australia Redcliffe Area - Kippa-ring | 1056489586

    I'm also watching the manual BX 16 that has been for sale for some time in Brisbane, if anyone knows anything about that.
    I imagine that it hasn't had much interest because it is a base model, but it DOES have low km.

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    I'm looking foe a comfortable, economical, hydopneumatic Cit to cut my teeth (and skin my knuckles) on!

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    There's a one owner 94 Xantia with 126k km for sale on the CCCV website. Revised asking price of $1800.

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    G'Day Folks,
    Further to my search for a low-budget Xantia (and the very helpful replies to my "Xantia auto boxes" post),
    does anyone know anything about the CT for sale on Gumtree at Kippa Ring, just north of Brisbane.

    Obviously, I'm not expecting a new car for $1k, but as I am an hour's drive out of Adelaide, it makes it difficult to assess it from here.

    Hopefully, it hasn't been flood damaged, and would be capable of being nursed the 2000km home before it went BANG!

    I feel confident to fettle it back into condition if I can get it home, but would welcome any background on this particular car, if they know it.
    97 Citroen xantia ct turbo ,cheap car $1000 ONO | Cars, Vans & Utes | Gumtree Australia Redcliffe Area - Kippa-ring | 1056489586

    I'm also watching the manual BX 16 that has been for sale for some time in Brisbane, if anyone knows anything about that.
    I imagine that it hasn't had much interest because it is a base model, but it DOES have low km.

    I'm looking foe a comfortable, economical, hydopneumatic Cit to cut my teeth (and skin my knuckles) on!

    Thanks,
    Chris

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    CT - the biggest "aargh!" risks are doseur boot leaks into the carpet underlay, and the struts failing. Can you not buy one of the three Xantia V6s apparently laid up by "Sherman" much closer to yourself?

    The $1800 CX Pallas with 35K on the clock looks much nicer! It's got aircon, too.

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    I would seriously consider the 94 Xantia on the CCCV website. One owner, Citroen Car Club member, not too far from Adelaide to check it out.

    The early (gutless) BX 16 appeals to masochists. If its a BX 16V, thats a different story. The CX may have aircon but you won't notice it on a hot day. Both these cars are getting long in the tooth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostfrench View Post
    G'Day Folks,
    Further to my search for a low-budget Xantia (and the very helpful replies to my "Xantia auto boxes" post),
    does anyone know anything about the CT for sale on Gumtree at Kippa Ring, just north of Brisbane.

    Obviously, I'm not expecting a new car for $1k, but as I am an hour's drive out of Adelaide, it makes it difficult to assess it from here.

    Hopefully, it hasn't been flood damaged, and would be capable of being nursed the 2000km home before it went BANG!

    I feel confident to fettle it back into condition if I can get it home, but would welcome any background on this particular car, if they know it.
    97 Citroen xantia ct turbo ,cheap car $1000 ONO | Cars, Vans & Utes | Gumtree Australia Redcliffe Area - Kippa-ring | 1056489586

    I'm also watching the manual BX 16 that has been for sale for some time in Brisbane, if anyone knows anything about that.
    I imagine that it hasn't had much interest because it is a base model, but it DOES have low km.

    I'm looking foe a comfortable, economical, hydopneumatic Cit to cut my teeth (and skin my knuckles) on!

    Thanks,
    Chris
    If I wasn't so busy right this moment, I would've gladly offered to drive up there and have a look at it for you. It's about 30mins from my house. Now if the car does have service history from specialists, then I am sure it would be in good fettle. I drove an SM from outside of Melbourne to Brisbane when a driveshaft triaxe threw its bearings all over the road 40km outside of Goondiwindi. I also drove an ID 19 from Melbourne with a leaky brake caliper and make it home without a glitch but with many litres of Dot 4 and castor oil spilt over the asphalt home.

    I guess it's all about enthusiasm over practicality and reliability.

    I would go for it!
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    The CCCV car is now on carsales at $1,000.

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    Sold! :-(

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    I would not buy a CT turbo Xantia as a car that I was going to do a lot of kilometers in. The fuel consumption is poor compared with newer engines. This has a low compression 8 valve engine which is sluggish off turbo and needs almost full throttle to bring the turbo on (at which time you do smile a bit). But I am flat out getting 450km out of 60 litres of fuel around town.

    A much better pick IMHO would be to go for a manual 2liter 16 valve engine which is much higher compression, has much more torque down low available immediately, a very revy top end and has much better fuel economy - 600 to 700 km in a tank. I would also be looking for a SX model with standard hydraulics in either late Series 1 or Series 2 as I reckon the suspension is much more reliable than a VSX hydractive with several less spheres to maintain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken W View Post
    I would not buy a CT turbo Xantia as a car that I was going to do a lot of kilometers in. The fuel consumption is poor compared with newer engines. This has a low compression 8 valve engine which is sluggish off turbo and needs almost full throttle to bring the turbo on (at which time you do smile a bit). But I am flat out getting 450km out of 60 litres of fuel around town.

    A much better pick IMHO would be to go for a manual 2liter 16 valve engine which is much higher compression, has much more torque down low available immediately, a very revy top end and has much better fuel economy - 600 to 700 km in a tank. I would also be looking for a SX model with standard hydraulics in either late Series 1 or Series 2 as I reckon the suspension is much more reliable than a VSX hydractive with several less spheres to maintain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken W View Post
    I would not buy a CT turbo Xantia as a car that I was going to do a lot of kilometers in. The fuel consumption is poor compared with newer engines. This has a low compression 8 valve engine which is sluggish off turbo and needs almost full throttle to bring the turbo on (at which time you do smile a bit). But I am flat out getting 450km out of 60 litres of fuel around town.

    A much better pick IMHO would be to go for a manual 2liter 16 valve engine which is much higher compression, has much more torque down low available immediately, a very revy top end and has much better fuel economy - 600 to 700 km in a tank. I would also be looking for a SX model with standard hydraulics in either late Series 1 or Series 2 as I reckon the suspension is much more reliable than a VSX hydractive with several less spheres to maintain.

    Cheers,

    Ken W
    I have a different perspective/experience, the CT I get about in is powerful with low revs and gets 600 to 700 klm to the tank, that's if I'm reasonable with the right foot. I once owned a 16 valve which was also good but not near the power of the CT. Not sure if my motor is stock standard, it was done up by French Connection 50000 klm ago or there abouts, must have done a very good job.
    i would look for a CT activa or a CX turbo, could be hard to find and now expensive, CX seem to be going up!
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    I don't know what the fuss is about how many K's you get on a tank full. On my 2CV has an absolute range of 300km to the tank. There are few places in Australia that I need to take extra fuel in containers (Raid conditions are the only exception). On long trips, I find the bladder retention time dictates when I need to top up the tank, empty the bladder and down another caffeine hit. Not having an ensuite, that means a stop at a service station.

    With any hydraulic Citroen - CX, BX or Xantia, I fill up when the tank is half empty. The ride deteriorates when you get into the bottom half of the tank. Normally I drive with an empty car with either just me or sometimes a passenger and without looking at the guage, I can tell when I am down to half tank.

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    Thanks Folks!
    All opinions and wisdom gratefully received and digested........
    A CX Turbo would be lovely, but is currently out of my price range - something to look forward to in the future, especially in a Break body........
    In this (impecunious) state, NA probably makes more sense. Again, would LOVE an Activa with a bit more boost: a REAL sleeper.
    Haven't driven a 16V, but they can lack torque at low revs, which is what you really need in the cut and thrust of normal driving, as opposed to going for a blast........
    The CT at Kippa Ring is sold, they just haven't taken it off gumtree yet. :-(
    The high-comp. 8v engine was always renowned as being torquey. My Bro had a 205 GTI, and in the lightweight body, it just JUMPED!

    Am really appreciating the willingness of people on the forum to take the time to put in their two-bob's worth. I've run VAG stuff happily for years, but the deteriorating road conditions (especially between Adelaide and Sydney) make hydropneumatics a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned. :-)

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    The Xantia 2L 16V engine RFV/XU10J4R does have quite good low speed torque as it has the 10.4 compression ratio as originally designed. However it also has quite a sensitive knock sensor which will rob all that torque if you run them on 91 octane and they seem to take ages to recover from a tank of 91. Performance is tolerable on 95 octane but they really pull well on 98 octane. If I have had to put lower octane fuel in mine, I reset the ECU by disconnecting, waiting for a few minutes and reconnecting the battery and I would suggest you do that first if test driving one of these and you have some fresh 98 octane in the tank.

    The same cannot be said for the BX16V as Citroen totally messed up the low speed torque by lowering the compression from 10.4 to 9.5 for cars exported to Australia. See the Taylor Engineering webpage for more explanation and how to modify this engine to better than original performance levels.

    Check this discussion.

    XU10J4R/RS dyno comparison

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    If you want hydropneumatic syspension and a nippy, fun car, a BX 19GTi or BX TRi are hard to beat. The other part of the power equation is the weight that you are trying to move. A BX at 1075kgs (about the same as a Mazda 2) is much lighter than a similay engined Xantia at 1176. They are a much more "flickable" car than the Xantia.

    In cut and thrust city traffic, they provide good visibility (big windows). The leading edge of the bonnet is visible so the car is easy to place. They are the last of the single spoke steering wheels, so they have no airbag. If you want to get to heaven, its quicker in a BX. If you don't want to go, they are a great driver's car and if you are a great driver, you should remain a terror here on terre firma.

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    I'd also suggest a 406. Yes, they may not ride as well as a Xantia, but they lose out on the complexity and cost of an ageing suspension system!

    Mine would get 7's/100km on the highway - combined with a 70L fuel tank, you'd almost make it to Sydney!

    At least drive one - they are pretty darn good!
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