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    GDay all,
    Time for me to request advice from the collective aussiefrogs CX wisdom pool.

    As you can see from my signature, I am not new to Citroens, just newish to the modern ones!
    I have been looking to have my own CX for many years, but not really been in a position to buy, or with somewhere to work on and store.
    Last week I was offered a pretty clean 1977 CX2400 Pallas 5 speed. Private import. 2 owner, last for 15 years.
    Car is well worn, but body straight, and it all appears to be there.
    I have a Haynes CX manual, and have downloaded pdf of RM 818 (1975)
    It has a couple of mechanical issues, but with 2 months rego, gives me time to get it sorted and I hope onto concessional rego.
    As supplied the drivers front wheel was disconnected from the suspension, so needed tilt tray to collect.

    Basically ... problems I have identified...

    Front end:
    Drivers side: bottom ball joint needed nut (and thread cleaning) ... done
    Top ball joint is verryy loossee, needs replacing (part #5429314?)

    Starting:
    reluctant, found a number of the vacuum lines off carby ( or cracked), and one carby vacuum pipe broken off (top of two front facing) (taped over it stopped the sucking, and now runs smoother)
    Choke cable mounting was loose, thread stripped, applied nut and now seems to behave
    How do I tell what carby it is? Do I replace or are they rebuildable?

    Gearbox:
    extreme travel for gearstick to engage gears, seems the selector shaft was not bolted tight to the gear selector at gearbox... once tightened, the travel became reasonable, and each gear easy to engage
    One of the ball joints is missing retaining clip (unobtainium?) and just lifts off the ball.

    hydraulics:
    no apparent leaks, sinks over a couple of hours, pumps up quickly on start
    rear spheres - very hard, little movement, regas or replace?
    front spheres - soft (as I think they should be)

    exhaust:
    leak in engine pipe, just in front of the cross member pipe disappears behind
    Remove and repair?

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    Horn:
    Electric horn, tucked in behind grill, but not connected ... which wire at the switch?

    Wheels and tyres;
    mixed wheels, mags (195/75 HR14) and steel (185 SR14), not enough nuts to go all mag or all steel, and will need a couple of tyres ...

    Great if I can find a CX wreck in Canberra region, and welcome experienced advice.
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    Michael T
    2013 DS4
    1977 CX 2400 Pallas
    1974 GS 1220 Sedan
    1958 ID19 (Slough)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrturbod View Post
    GDay all,
    Time for me to request advice from the collective aussiefrogs CX wisdom pool.

    As you can see from my signature, I am not new to Citroens, just newish to the modern ones!
    I have been looking to have my own CX for many years, but not really been in a position to buy, or with somewhere to work on and store.
    Last week I was offered a pretty clean 1977 CX2400 Pallas 5 speed. Private import. 2 owner, last for 15 years.
    Car is well worn, but body straight, and it all appears to be there.
    I have a Haynes CX manual, and have downloaded pdf of RM 818 (1975)
    It has a couple of mechanical issues, but with 2 months rego, gives me time to get it sorted and I hope onto concessional rego.
    As supplied the drivers front wheel was disconnected from the suspension, so needed tilt tray to collect.
    The early CX's have a smaller lower balljoint that can fail with heavy wear. You will need to ensure you buy the correct ball joint, as I'm pretty sure the later ones don't fit.


    Basically ... problems I have identified...

    Front end:
    Drivers side: bottom ball joint needed nut (and thread cleaning) ... done
    Top ball joint is verryy loossee, needs replacing (part #5429314?)
    You will certainly need new yoke type inner tierod joints, lower arms bushes and top arm bearings as well.

    Starting:
    reluctant, found a number of the vacuum lines off carby ( or cracked), and one carby vacuum pipe broken off (top of two front facing) (taped over it stopped the sucking, and now runs smoother)
    Choke cable mounting was loose, thread stripped, applied nut and now seems to behave
    How do I tell what carby it is? Do I replace or are they rebuildable?
    The old motors in these things are near bullet proof. New points, leads, plugs and fresh fluids will do it the world of good. The carby is probably best just pulled off and given a good clean. Carby kits should be available. There will be a lot of spindal wear, it's unlikely that will affect your idle though (you can't do much about it, weber designed the carby so you couldn't rebush the spindals).

    Gearbox:
    extreme travel for gearstick to engage gears, seems the selector shaft was not bolted tight to the gear selector at gearbox... once tightened, the travel became reasonable, and each gear easy to engage
    One of the ball joints is missing retaining clip (unobtainium?) and just lifts off the ball.
    Most of the wear will likely be in the ball/socket joint at the base of the gearstick itself. Check all the linkage out to the gearbox though. one maybe missing a bush.

    hydraulics:
    no apparent leaks, sinks over a couple of hours, pumps up quickly on start
    rear spheres - very hard, little movement, regas or replace?
    front spheres - soft (as I think they should be)
    regas front spheres, replace rear and accumulators ( specialist tend to only regas the spheres they can readily get too ).... which means brake accumulators and rear spheres are usually flat.

    exhaust:
    leak in engine pipe, just in front of the cross member pipe disappears behind
    Remove and repair?
    Just take it too you local exhaust place.... There's not much there that's citroen specific ... "Stick a uni on mate" .... There is absolutely no reason to order in the exact citroen parts at extreme costs.

    Horn:
    Electric horn, tucked in behind grill, but not connected ... which wire at the switch?
    plug them back in. you might find you need to spray some WD40 through the air horns to get them working too if they haven't been used for an extended period of time.


    Wheels and tyres;
    mixed wheels, mags (195/75 HR14) and steel (185 SR14), not enough nuts to go all mag or all steel, and will need a couple of tyres ...

    Great if I can find a CX wreck in Canberra region, and welcome experienced advice.
    The only look right with the metal wheels and full sized hubcaps on too my eyes ... Send "cruiserman" a PM, he might still have some CX parts cars.

    seeya,
    Shane L.
    'Cit' homepage:
    Citroen Workshop
    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/citro%EBn-forum/90325-best-project-car-you-have-ever-seen.html
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

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    For the exhaust leak take it to an exhaust place and get them to fit a new stainless steel flexi. You will be surprised at the low cost


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    Thanks for the replies Shane and Greg,
    I will focus on the top joint, then I think an exhaust place will sort the flex joint, and hopefully same place may do the rego inspection too.
    Once the motor gets warm, it seems to restart easily, so should be reliable while being inspected!
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    Michael T
    2013 DS4
    1977 CX 2400 Pallas
    1974 GS 1220 Sedan
    1958 ID19 (Slough)

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    I have been offered a carby, it was being kept as a spare, so that should help.

    Parts availability in Australia ... Where should I go to get front suspension parts ... particularly the top ball joint?
    I have found the front suspension parts listed on CX-Basis site, but would to prefer local supplier.
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    Michael T
    2013 DS4
    1977 CX 2400 Pallas
    1974 GS 1220 Sedan
    1958 ID19 (Slough)

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    as far as I know, top ball joints are all the same. Here is one for 5quid. Ebay uK is your friend for CX parts. None of the local guys will stock CX parts unless there ancient old stock parts they have had on the shelves since the 80's.

    QSJ833 New QH Upper Ball Joint Citroen CX 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.4 2.5 1975-1990 | eBay

    Note: these are a push fit. You need at least 12tons to move them (My 12ton press doesn't like doing them). Or one of those monster "G" clamp type ball joint extractors.

    seeya,
    shane L.
    'Cit' homepage:
    Citroen Workshop
    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

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    Need front susp redo too i.e. ball joints wheel bearings etc.

    Pity not all ship to South Africa

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