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    I have broken the Drivers Door Glass on my D spec!! After a quick search I have found 3 LHS ones.While I notice there area few subtle differences (Asymmetries) I cannot see any insuperable problems. Has anyone tried this.
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    Do you have DS door glass in it already?

    I would have thought a DSpécial might carry ID spec door glass.

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    This would be the fake glass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumnoreason View Post
    This would be the fake glass?
    This is a 1975 D Spec, the glass is the same as a DS21!
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    Hi Brian,

    They are interchangable, just the etched writing in the corner may be reversed.

    You will need to take the metal strip off the bottom of the drivers glass and put it on the bottom of the passenger glass - note the lateral position on the glass.

    Both 4mm and 5mm glass was used in the cars, I don't know when, but measure the other windows to be sure you getting the same.

    If your going to that trouble I'd also put some new slides in (they are available overseas easily) to tighten the mechanism up. I just did this and the windows are like new...!

    I've never pulled the metal strip off one myself so can't help there.

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    PS. I'm sure a wider search would yield the correct drivers glass from someone - it is one of those things that is not needed that often. It will save you messing with the strip...

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumnoreason View Post
    This would be the fake glass?
    Different years/different trim specs. The only 'fake' glass was the rear hatch windows on the wagons- they were using plexiglass (except in the US) because the hatch was already so heavy. Fun fact: that was why nobody (except in the US) ever saw a rear defroster on their wagon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrodelectric View Post
    Different years/different trim specs. The only 'fake' glass was the rear hatch windows on the wagons- they were using plexiglass (except in the US) because the hatch was already so heavy. Fun fact: that was why nobody (except in the US) ever saw a rear defroster on their wagon.
    All D Safaris in NZ had glass in the rear hatches. Most of the late ones had demisters, but none worked for very long!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mungous View Post
    All D Safaris in NZ had glass in the rear hatches. Most of the late ones had demisters, but none worked for very long!
    In Aus the very early Safari used plexiglass in the rear. My '67 had no rear demister but a glass rear screen, my later '72 Safari certainly had the demister in the glass.

    Brian,
    As mentioned by ds21bvh you can use the door glass RH to LH by carefully prising the metal channel off the bottom and refitting the glass using the channel from the other side, you will mirror the manufactures etched marking. If you are going to fit new slides and I highly recommend you do, be aware they are available in 4 and 5mm to suit the glass you are using. I have my glass removed at the moment and several slides were cracked or broken so new replacements are ready for assembly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mungous View Post
    All D Safaris in NZ had glass in the rear hatches. Most of the late ones had demisters, but none worked for very long!
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBlood View Post
    In Aus the very early Safari used plexiglass in the rear. My '67 had no rear demister but a glass rear screen, my later '72 Safari certainly had the demister in the glass.

    Brian,
    As mentioned by ds21bvh you can use the door glass RH to LH by carefully prising the metal channel off the bottom and refitting the glass using the channel from the other side, you will mirror the manufactures etched marking. If you are going to fit new slides and I highly recommend you do, be aware they are available in 4 and 5mm to suit the glass you are using. I have my glass removed at the moment and several slides were cracked or broken so new replacements are ready for assembly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mungous View Post
    All D Safaris in NZ had glass in the rear hatches. Most of the late ones had demisters, but none worked for very long!
    Not all
    Early French assembled RHD cars had the plexiglass rear, and I'm told that Slough ones may have had glass.
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    I have successfully done this ie fitted a RHF glass to a LHF door. It was on a early D though. I seem to recall that a fair amount of care was needed to prise the metal channel off the glass and recover the rubber. Refitting was also a careful process and success depended on the condition of the rubber.
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    Thanks for all the helpful advice.I was hoping that someone would tell me to just wack it in as it is!!
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    You had me confused for a while there with the term LHS. I was wondering how a door glass could be hydraulic. Hydraulic powered windows, cool idea!

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    Wasn't it proposed for the Dee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by addo View Post
    Wasn't it proposed for the Dee?
    A few things were dropped, another was hydraulic wipers. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenBlood View Post
    A few things were dropped, another was hydraulic wipers. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wilkinson View Post
    You had me confused for a while there with the term LHS. I was wondering how a door glass could be hydraulic. Hydraulic powered windows, cool idea!

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    For that, you need something like a '48 Lincoln Continental or a Mercedes 600 Grosser. **SNAP** goes Mme Guillotine's idea...
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    The Austin A90 Atlantic also had hydraulic windows,how about getting back to the subject!
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian woodcock View Post
    Thanks for all the helpful advice.I was hoping that someone would tell me to just wack it in as it is!!
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    Well, it won't work. Hope all you like, but the steel rails at the base of the glass differ from left to right. Discussion about plastic Safari 'glass' and hydraulic window regulators don't alter the relevant answers already provided.

    Make sure you know how to adjust the glass before closing the door with it wound right up. Otherwise, you will looking for yet another pane of glass.
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    Did the factory centre their door glass with temporary spacers on the edges? That seems to me, one way of getting it right.

    My OSF glass is perilously close to the B pillar trim, the A post is damaged and the door doesn't hang right - the OP might need to adjust the door first, then the glass...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrodelectric View Post
    For that, you need something like a '48 Lincoln Continental or a Mercedes 600 Grosser. **SNAP** goes Mme Guillotine's idea...
    I like the idea of hydraulic windows .... as the car sinks slowly down to the ground so would all the windows ......... It sure would make starting the car exciting ... "who will the windows grab when I start the car this time"

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    I am pleased to announce that I have successfully fitted a LHS door glass complete with steel channel to the RHS door.It was not all plain sailing,I had to grind a bit off the channel,but it is now all working well.This procedure may well offend some purists ,but now its all together none can tell!
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    Nice one. A positive outcome is a positive outcome!

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    OK, fair enough. I was wrong as you've made it fit.
    Do the two bolts at the bottom still act as stops when closed.
    Did you slide the channels up or down so the glass can't catch on the roof?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I like the idea of hydraulic windows .... as the car sinks slowly down to the ground so would all the windows ......... It sure would make starting the car exciting ... "who will the windows grab when I start the car this time"

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